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> exceptionally good life in Poland Compared to your environment, sure. However, you'll never drive a Tesla and buy $4000 road bikes when you're on $27k/y. >

> exceptionally good life in Poland Compared to your environment, sure. However, you'll never drive a Tesla and buy $4000 road bikes when you're on $27k/y. > Just because a software engineer in SF can make $100k/year doesn't mean that's what the position is worth It means exactly that in a free market capitalism (and while we're not living in a pure free market, we're not _that_ far). Why would a company overpay? (Sometimes they do, but not 4x, and not consistently.) In case everyone's massively overpaying in SV, then you could just start a company there and pay people half the salaries and be extremely competitive.

gambiting 6y ago
>>However, you'll never drive a Tesla and buy $4000 road bikes when you're on $27k/y. But I'll easily buy a 6 bed house with lots of land, something that pretty much no one in SV can afford, so.....what do I need that Tesla for?
bumbada 6y ago
But you will be able to have a good house, raise a family, have lots of free time and freedom. Not compared to the environment, you will be happier than most people in the US. It is obvious that for you money equals happiness but there are people in the world that believe that not everything in life is money and status. They value relationships, they value freedom and time, they value going to the mountains or beaches that is almost free. They value cars as a means of transport and do not need a Tesla. Your comments speaks clearly that you have never gone out of the US and as a result you have lots of prejudices about it.
mattlutze 6y ago
It sounds like you're both criticising market-rate compensation and lauding it? But also, companies overpay in SF because if they don't someone else will pay better and pick up the experienced technical labor. So it's an employee's market there, sort of, versus in perhaps Poland where there's less valley-level insane demand for technical labor and so companies aren't so competitive to snag that one extra person.

gambiting 6y ago

>>However, you'll never drive a Tesla and buy $4000 road bikes when you're on $27k/y. But I'll easily buy a 6 bed house with lots of land, something that pretty much no one in SV can afford, so.....what do I need that Tesla for?

bumbada 6y ago

But you will be able to have a good house, raise a family, have lots of free time and freedom. Not compared to the environment, you will be happier than most people in the US. It is obvious that for you money equals happiness but there are people in the world that believe that not everything in life is money and status. They value relationships, they value freedom and time, they value going to the mountains or beaches that is almost free. They value cars as a means of transport and do not need a Tesla. Your comments speaks clearly that you have never gone out of the US and as a result you have lots of prejudices about it.

mattlutze 6y ago

It sounds like you're both criticising market-rate compensation and lauding it? But also, companies overpay in SF because if they don't someone else will pay better and pick up the experienced technical labor. So it's an employee's market there, sort of, versus in perhaps Poland where there's less valley-level insane demand for technical labor and so companies aren't so competitive to snag that one extra person.