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My.mp3.com lost. That’s the legal situation. If you want to let people access their music in the cloud without them having to upload it you will have to come to

by ugh 15y ago

My.mp3.com lost. That’s the legal situation. If you want to let people access their music in the cloud without them having to upload it you will have to come to some agreement with the labels. There is no way around it.

bad_user 15y ago
Google and Amazon are bigger and could afford a fight. And I hope they do. To me the fact that Apple will have deals with the music labels and will probably only allow you to play music you bought from them - that's no surprise at all.
- masklinn 15y ago
  > Google and Amazon are bigger and could afford a fight. A fight they have no guarantee they can win still. The jurisprudence is against them, although Amazon definitely seems to think they can be successful.
  - jrockway 15y ago
    When did fair use go away? I must have missed that.
    - masklinn 15y ago
      > When did fair use go away? Around 1952. > I must have missed that. Were you asleep the whole time? Did you miss the my.mp3.com case ugh referred to above?
    - chopsueyar 15y ago
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMG_v._MP3.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMG_v._MP3.com
  - tybris 15y ago
    You're thinking in legal terms. This is about money. Amazon is one of the largest music sellers in the world. Google is has enough money to buy the whole industry. Pick your fight.
    - masklinn 15y ago
      > You're thinking in legal terms. This is about money. Which matters not at all. > Amazon is one of the largest music sellers in the world. Google is has enough money to buy the whole industry. Being big is not sufficient, nor is having money. Apple has more cash on hand than Amazon and Google at the same time. > Pick your fight. You don't even make sense.
  - Tyrannosaurs 15y ago
    And while they're fighting Apple are establishing themselves as the number one player. This isn't about what's right, it's about what will work. I'm not sure Amazon (or Google) really think they can be successful but I'm not sure that's the point. I think they're just manoeuvring - potentially trying to show the record companies that there is demand, that there is money to be made and to encourage them into a mutually agreeable licensing deal.
- ugh 15y ago
  As of right now they are not willing to fight.
tomjen3 15y ago
There are plenty of ways around it, including getting better lawyers.
- Tyrannosaurs 15y ago
  This is Sony and Universal Music we're talking about not some two bit patent troll with no balls. They've got pretty good lawyers, deep pockets and believe (rightly or wrongly) that they're fighting for their survival. Spending more and more on lawyers is likely to really only benefit the lawyers.

by ugh 15y ago

bad_user 15y ago

Google and Amazon are bigger and could afford a fight. And I hope they do. To me the fact that Apple will have deals with the music labels and will probably only allow you to play music you bought from them - that's no surprise at all.

masklinn 15y ago
> Google and Amazon are bigger and could afford a fight. A fight they have no guarantee they can win still. The jurisprudence is against them, although Amazon definitely seems to think they can be successful.
- jrockway 15y ago
  When did fair use go away? I must have missed that.
  - masklinn 15y ago
    > When did fair use go away? Around 1952. > I must have missed that. Were you asleep the whole time? Did you miss the my.mp3.com case ugh referred to above?
  - chopsueyar 15y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMG_v._MP3.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMG_v._MP3.com
- tybris 15y ago
  You're thinking in legal terms. This is about money. Amazon is one of the largest music sellers in the world. Google is has enough money to buy the whole industry. Pick your fight.
  - masklinn 15y ago
    > You're thinking in legal terms. This is about money. Which matters not at all. > Amazon is one of the largest music sellers in the world. Google is has enough money to buy the whole industry. Being big is not sufficient, nor is having money. Apple has more cash on hand than Amazon and Google at the same time. > Pick your fight. You don't even make sense.
- Tyrannosaurs 15y ago
  And while they're fighting Apple are establishing themselves as the number one player. This isn't about what's right, it's about what will work. I'm not sure Amazon (or Google) really think they can be successful but I'm not sure that's the point. I think they're just manoeuvring - potentially trying to show the record companies that there is demand, that there is money to be made and to encourage them into a mutually agreeable licensing deal.
ugh 15y ago
As of right now they are not willing to fight.

tomjen3 15y ago

There are plenty of ways around it, including getting better lawyers.

Tyrannosaurs 15y ago
This is Sony and Universal Music we're talking about not some two bit patent troll with no balls. They've got pretty good lawyers, deep pockets and believe (rightly or wrongly) that they're fighting for their survival. Spending more and more on lawyers is likely to really only benefit the lawyers.