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I believe you're missing the point. At first, they explain the information is collected solely for medical reasons. Now they say they can use it as they please

I believe you're missing the point. At first, they explain the information is collected solely for medical reasons. Now they say they can use it as they please. Don't you see fallacy here? I am sure it was a genuine answer - that's why I was surprised. Usually those things are sugar covered.

coldtea 6y ago
>At first, they explain the information is collected solely for medical reasons. Now they say they can use it as they please. Don't you see fallacy here? Technically not a fallacy (as there's no logical fault in what they said). Just falling back on a promise to the public.
- hagibborim 6y ago
  It's not a logical fallacy, but it's still a fallacy.
  - coldtea 6y ago
    You keep using this word "fallacy". I don't think it means what you think it means [1] (a) a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy. (b) a misleading or unsound argument. (c) deceptive, misleading, or false nature; erroneousness. (d) Logic. any of various types of erroneous reasoning that render arguments logically unsound. [1] to paraphrase "The Princess Bride"
    - hagibborim 6y ago
      This usage fits definitions a, b, and c. This very definition draws a distinction between a 'fallacy' and a 'logical fallacy'
      - coldtea 6y ago
        >This usage fits definitions a, b, and c. No, it doesn't. Government: - "We will use data just for medical purposes" Government (later): - "Guess what, we lied/we recant: we will use them for other state purposes too". There's nothing fallacious in (a), (b) or (c) way about either statement or the whole situation.
        hungryforcodes 6y ago
        It's a brilliant example of doublethink you did there.
- TeMPOraL 6y ago
  Not only that, it's also the counterexample to calling "slippery slope" a fallacy. After all, slippery slope is not a fallacy if the slope is, in fact, slippery.

coldtea 6y ago

>At first, they explain the information is collected solely for medical reasons. Now they say they can use it as they please. Don't you see fallacy here? Technically not a fallacy (as there's no logical fault in what they said). Just falling back on a promise to the public.

hagibborim 6y ago
It's not a logical fallacy, but it's still a fallacy.
- coldtea 6y ago
  You keep using this word "fallacy". I don't think it means what you think it means [1] (a) a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy. (b) a misleading or unsound argument. (c) deceptive, misleading, or false nature; erroneousness. (d) Logic. any of various types of erroneous reasoning that render arguments logically unsound. [1] to paraphrase "The Princess Bride"
  - hagibborim 6y ago
    This usage fits definitions a, b, and c. This very definition draws a distinction between a 'fallacy' and a 'logical fallacy'
    - coldtea 6y ago
      >This usage fits definitions a, b, and c. No, it doesn't. Government: - "We will use data just for medical purposes" Government (later): - "Guess what, we lied/we recant: we will use them for other state purposes too". There's nothing fallacious in (a), (b) or (c) way about either statement or the whole situation.
      - hungryforcodes 6y ago
        It's a brilliant example of doublethink you did there.
TeMPOraL 6y ago
Not only that, it's also the counterexample to calling "slippery slope" a fallacy. After all, slippery slope is not a fallacy if the slope is, in fact, slippery.