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I browse with NoScript blocking JavaScript by default as too many web developers (or their managers) have violated my trust to not do Dodgy Stuff over the years

I browse with NoScript blocking JavaScript by default as too many web developers (or their managers) have violated my trust to not do Dodgy Stuff over the years. Unfortunately I don't believe there will ever exist accurate numbers of the true portion of people who browse a subset of the web with JavaScript disabled, at least partially because many of those same folks will prevent the means used to collect the data in the first place. It's no place for me to dictate how you do your development, so I won't do that. It is however my personal opinion that websites should depend on HTML and CSS, and progressively enhance functionality with sprinkles of JavaScript. The vast majority of websites are not interactive applications, and I think modern web development practices could do with something of a hard reset. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to decide how things ended up where they are now and whether it's a good thing for them. Personally I think it's comical and horrifying just how much compilation goes on in projects written in that particular interpreted language these days!

ficklepickle 6y ago
Do you run native phone apps? Because they are 10000x worse. 75mb to display a website and 20 tracking/retargeting libs. Apps are killing the open web anyway. People being born now will grow up without knowing what the web is. I agree about the state of the web tho. I'm a web dev and I often browse with JS disabled and always with adblocking and pihole.
- labawi 6y ago
  Not OP, but only open source ones. It's a shame, but such is life. I have 1 client-provided phone that I only power on for specific purposes that is not neutered and has a closed-source app.
labawi 6y ago
It's an unfortunate effect. I feel conflicted about blocking all the tracking and stuff, as I believe most cites will ignore browsers such as mine in their statistics, where everyone has javascript, because analytics says so, and most will have webgl, webasm, canvas, webfont, notifications, whatever... They probably don't count private browsers even when I am a logged-in paying user - who parses server logs these days.

ficklepickle 6y ago

Do you run native phone apps? Because they are 10000x worse. 75mb to display a website and 20 tracking/retargeting libs. Apps are killing the open web anyway. People being born now will grow up without knowing what the web is. I agree about the state of the web tho. I'm a web dev and I often browse with JS disabled and always with adblocking and pihole.

labawi 6y ago
Not OP, but only open source ones. It's a shame, but such is life. I have 1 client-provided phone that I only power on for specific purposes that is not neutered and has a closed-source app.

labawi 6y ago

It's an unfortunate effect. I feel conflicted about blocking all the tracking and stuff, as I believe most cites will ignore browsers such as mine in their statistics, where everyone has javascript, because analytics says so, and most will have webgl, webasm, canvas, webfont, notifications, whatever... They probably don't count private browsers even when I am a logged-in paying user - who parses server logs these days.