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by madars 6y ago

Wow! https://preview.tinyurl.com/examplezoom https://preview.tinyurl.com/examplezoom really shows https://zoom.us/j/123456789 https://zoom.us/j/123456789 link whereas Chrome network inspector confirms the viglink.com redirect. uBlock origin blocks the latter via Dan Pollock’s hosts file and Peter Lowe’s Ad and tracking server list.

1vuio0pswjnm7 6y ago
As someone who uses a whitelist approach, I am curious whether people ever experience false positives or missing entries with these lists? I have little experince with those lists except for going through one of them once and being shocked at what was in there. The setup I use is customised for me, i.e., Rube Goldberg would be proud. I can view and manipulate all traffic from outside the application and outside the origin computer. I can strip cookies based on IP, domain or URL very easily. I also control DNS so only domains I approve would even return an IP address.
- samb1729 6y ago
  What is the user interface for your setup like? It sounds attractive but possibly prohibitively frictious to be workable for me. I currently use a combination of uBlock Origin blacklisting, NoScript whitelisting, and Little Snitch alerting, if you need a baseline to compare. I've also run a Pihole instance in the past to loop my phone in, but that's not running as of today.
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  - 1vuio0pswjnm7 6y ago
    No GUI. I think what I have created is something like a cross between Pi-Hole, Burp and something yet to be named. But it's faster, more flexible, uses different software and is Java-free.
    - samb1729 6y ago
      Sorry if I was unclear, I wasn't asking about a GUI. I mean how do you interface with it as the user? I assume it isn't just something you launch and forget about given your description.
      - 1vuio0pswjnm7 6y ago
        Oh, sorry I misunderstood. It is ideally run on a gateway, but can also be run on the same machine if using a UNIX-like OS that isn't locked own. I do interface with it a lot because I like to look at logs and dumps and experiment with configurations, but that's not required. Setup consists of a single script that sets up all the servers and imports the data. Any changes while using consist of editing text files. There are some tiny shell scripts and some helper tools I wrote in C to facilitate hands-on DNS management as I am very active in managing DNS data, I like to see IP addresses rather than hide them. I intentionally do many DNS lookups semi-manually. This is purely personal preference, not required. This system could be "set it and forget it" once you have the proxy configs and DNS data you want. The amount of DNS data I actually need to survive is quite small. Those outsourced blocklists the ad blockers use could be larger than personally curated whitelists, depending on the user. The DNS and proxy servers use little system resources. A programmer with an excellent track record for reliability once said something like "The best interface is no interface." This is how I like things. I do not want to be required to costantly interact. He is the author of the DNS server and daemontools, which I use to control the servers. HTH
- wodenokoto 6y ago
  There are many false positives or grey negatives when using those filters. But it mostly happen during these kinds of redirects where one or more actors wants to be in the redirect loop. This could be URL shorteners or price comparison websites. uBlock asks if you want a one time exception when a redirect leads you to a blocked url.
- blackbear_ 6y ago
  That sounds so cool, I'd love to know more about your setup!
fireattack 6y ago
Tried in a new profile and didn't see any viglink.com. Edit: the link should be https://tinyurl.com/examplezoom https://tinyurl.com/examplezoom (which does have viglink.com). For some reason you wrote the preview link, https://preview.tinyurl.com/examplezoom https://preview.tinyurl.com/examplezoom, which does not have the tracker.
- 1f60c 6y ago
  I think that's their point: preview.tinyurl.com is lying to you.
  - fireattack 6y ago
    Ah, I misunderstood. TBF I think they have direct link on preview page simply because they don't want to track the traffic from these pages (instead of trying to disguise), but the practice is still bad.

by madars 6y ago

1vuio0pswjnm7 6y ago

As someone who uses a whitelist approach, I am curious whether people ever experience false positives or missing entries with these lists? I have little experince with those lists except for going through one of them once and being shocked at what was in there. The setup I use is customised for me, i.e., Rube Goldberg would be proud. I can view and manipulate all traffic from outside the application and outside the origin computer. I can strip cookies based on IP, domain or URL very easily. I also control DNS so only domains I approve would even return an IP address.

samb1729 6y ago
What is the user interface for your setup like? It sounds attractive but possibly prohibitively frictious to be workable for me. I currently use a combination of uBlock Origin blacklisting, NoScript whitelisting, and Little Snitch alerting, if you need a baseline to compare. I've also run a Pihole instance in the past to loop my phone in, but that's not running as of today.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 6y ago
  No GUI. I think what I have created is something like a cross between Pi-Hole, Burp and something yet to be named. But it's faster, more flexible, uses different software and is Java-free.
  - samb1729 6y ago
    Sorry if I was unclear, I wasn't asking about a GUI. I mean how do you interface with it as the user? I assume it isn't just something you launch and forget about given your description.
    - 1vuio0pswjnm7 6y ago
      Oh, sorry I misunderstood. It is ideally run on a gateway, but can also be run on the same machine if using a UNIX-like OS that isn't locked own. I do interface with it a lot because I like to look at logs and dumps and experiment with configurations, but that's not required. Setup consists of a single script that sets up all the servers and imports the data. Any changes while using consist of editing text files. There are some tiny shell scripts and some helper tools I wrote in C to facilitate hands-on DNS management as I am very active in managing DNS data, I like to see IP addresses rather than hide them. I intentionally do many DNS lookups semi-manually. This is purely personal preference, not required. This system could be "set it and forget it" once you have the proxy configs and DNS data you want. The amount of DNS data I actually need to survive is quite small. Those outsourced blocklists the ad blockers use could be larger than personally curated whitelists, depending on the user. The DNS and proxy servers use little system resources. A programmer with an excellent track record for reliability once said something like "The best interface is no interface." This is how I like things. I do not want to be required to costantly interact. He is the author of the DNS server and daemontools, which I use to control the servers. HTH
wodenokoto 6y ago
There are many false positives or grey negatives when using those filters. But it mostly happen during these kinds of redirects where one or more actors wants to be in the redirect loop. This could be URL shorteners or price comparison websites. uBlock asks if you want a one time exception when a redirect leads you to a blocked url.
blackbear_ 6y ago
That sounds so cool, I'd love to know more about your setup!

fireattack 6y ago

Tried in a new profile and didn't see any viglink.com. Edit: the link should be https://tinyurl.com/examplezoom https://tinyurl.com/examplezoom (which does have viglink.com). For some reason you wrote the preview link, https://preview.tinyurl.com/examplezoom https://preview.tinyurl.com/examplezoom, which does not have the tracker.

1f60c 6y ago
I think that's their point: preview.tinyurl.com is lying to you.
- fireattack 6y ago
  Ah, I misunderstood. TBF I think they have direct link on preview page simply because they don't want to track the traffic from these pages (instead of trying to disguise), but the practice is still bad.