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It's kind of disappointing overall, because package management has always been the solution to this kind of problem. You tell users "never install anything you

It's kind of disappointing overall, because package management has always been the solution to this kind of problem. You tell users "never install anything you don't find in the repo", but now it seems somehow tainted. I guess maybe it's that nobody cares about it until Apple can make 30% of your software's retail price through it. I'm glad that systems are finally getting the same kind of package management that we have enjoyed on Linux for well over a decade, but it's a serious bummer that it has to come with such scammy-feeling commercialistic trappings before it can be brought to the masses. It's hard to put my finger on the feeling exactly.

endgame 16y ago
Is it the feeling that it won't be easy (if it's possible at all) to get Free Software on these systems?
blantonl 16y ago
You advocated and disparaged the App Store concept, and then you railed against capitalism. Regardless of how you perceive the App Store concept, you cannot deny that it works, and it works well. Frankly, what's wrong with a package management system that charges consumers and pays commissions to the host?
- drivebyacct2 16y ago
  You're missing the point. The App Store is not a package management system. In Ubuntu, I never, ever install one-off DEBs. Every single piece of software is installed through a repo. I'm able to trust that software and I don't let other apps get root privileges unless I grant them and know what's going on. The Apple App Store is not a package management system. It's a store. Developers have to relinquish control and money to have their apps listed there. Thus, many apps must still be installed manually. It's not an open ecosystem and it's not really fair to compare them. Synaptic and trusted repositories saves me from malware because there is no reason not to use them. There are many reasons not to use Apple's.
Tichy 16y ago
"but now it seems somehow tainted" Except for iOS, usually you can still optionally install software in another way, or even create your own repository (Linux packages, Android markets). So the "tainted" bit is the totalitarian aspect of it.

endgame 16y ago

Is it the feeling that it won't be easy (if it's possible at all) to get Free Software on these systems?

blantonl 16y ago

You advocated and disparaged the App Store concept, and then you railed against capitalism. Regardless of how you perceive the App Store concept, you cannot deny that it works, and it works well. Frankly, what's wrong with a package management system that charges consumers and pays commissions to the host?

drivebyacct2 16y ago
You're missing the point. The App Store is not a package management system. In Ubuntu, I never, ever install one-off DEBs. Every single piece of software is installed through a repo. I'm able to trust that software and I don't let other apps get root privileges unless I grant them and know what's going on. The Apple App Store is not a package management system. It's a store. Developers have to relinquish control and money to have their apps listed there. Thus, many apps must still be installed manually. It's not an open ecosystem and it's not really fair to compare them. Synaptic and trusted repositories saves me from malware because there is no reason not to use them. There are many reasons not to use Apple's.

Tichy 16y ago

"but now it seems somehow tainted" Except for iOS, usually you can still optionally install software in another way, or even create your own repository (Linux packages, Android markets). So the "tainted" bit is the totalitarian aspect of it.