I don't know, but I'm also interested in the answer. I would say this is one of the strengths of the culture at my company and we spend a lot of time trying to

I don't know, but I'm also interested in the answer. I would say this is one of the strengths of the culture at my company and we spend a lot of time trying to get that across to engineering candidates. I'd love to improve our messaging there if we can, though. We talk about a culture of trust, that we hire good people and then trust them to do their jobs. We talk about avoiding hierarchy and beurocracy where it doesn't help us. We talk about engineers driving their own work forwards and we make it clear that we're looking for people who can do that.