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Can we talk more about this? I think of hacker news as a place to discuss differing opinions and this response seems like something I'd like to understand bette

Can we talk more about this? I think of hacker news as a place to discuss differing opinions and this response seems like something I'd like to understand better. When does opting out of a cultural scene == racism?

yaakov34 6y ago
Why are you playing dumb? Rejecting things as "too white", "too black" or "too Asian" is racist.
- bgilroy26 6y ago
  It's a matter of taste and taste is speech. Let it be freee
  - antisoeu 6y ago
    It's still racist. I personally even think racism should be legal - in general, people having wrong opinions should be legal. Doesn't mean I have to like them.
    - bgilroy26 6y ago
      >Doesn't mean I have to like them. Yes.
antisoeu 6y ago
It's racism if you define a scene by people's skin color. Not sure what there is to talk about. yaakov34 explains it well.
- SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
  I do not think that a person noticing that they are the only person of colour in the room is being racist. You might as well say that it's sexist to _notice_ that the tech conference is all dudes. It's the same victim-blaming absurdity.
  - antisoeu 6y ago
    You are not a victim if you are the only non-white person in a room or the only woman at a conference. It's absurd to make a connection to "victim blaming" here. Noticing such quotas as such is of course not racist or sexist. Acting because of them is. Feeling like a victim because you are the only "X" in the room is also racist or sexist (depending on context). And are you saying his ONLY reason for "leaving the art scene" was because everybody else had white skin color? Not even because of their behavior? How is that not racist? And if he left because of the behavior, and describes it as being "white", it is also racist. There is no way to interpret his statement as not being racist. As for "leaving the art scene", I bet he doesn't reject "white money" and 99% of his funding is from white people. In the article it is also stated that "European museums" bought his art.
    - SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
      > Acting because of them is. Feeling like a victim because you are the only "X" in the room is also racist or sexist Still accusing the victims of racism, boring. And this drivel is a symptom your failure to understand racism at all, and why you're exhibiting racism.
      - antisoeu 6y ago
        What's boring is your inability to understand an argument or logic. It's not me who is exhibiting racism here. Again, feeling like a victim because of skin color or sex of people surrounding you is obviously racist or sexist, respectively.

yaakov34 6y ago

Why are you playing dumb? Rejecting things as "too white", "too black" or "too Asian" is racist.

bgilroy26 6y ago
It's a matter of taste and taste is speech. Let it be freee
- antisoeu 6y ago
  It's still racist. I personally even think racism should be legal - in general, people having wrong opinions should be legal. Doesn't mean I have to like them.
  - bgilroy26 6y ago
    >Doesn't mean I have to like them. Yes.

antisoeu 6y ago

It's racism if you define a scene by people's skin color. Not sure what there is to talk about. yaakov34 explains it well.

SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
I do not think that a person noticing that they are the only person of colour in the room is being racist. You might as well say that it's sexist to _notice_ that the tech conference is all dudes. It's the same victim-blaming absurdity.
- antisoeu 6y ago
  You are not a victim if you are the only non-white person in a room or the only woman at a conference. It's absurd to make a connection to "victim blaming" here. Noticing such quotas as such is of course not racist or sexist. Acting because of them is. Feeling like a victim because you are the only "X" in the room is also racist or sexist (depending on context). And are you saying his ONLY reason for "leaving the art scene" was because everybody else had white skin color? Not even because of their behavior? How is that not racist? And if he left because of the behavior, and describes it as being "white", it is also racist. There is no way to interpret his statement as not being racist. As for "leaving the art scene", I bet he doesn't reject "white money" and 99% of his funding is from white people. In the article it is also stated that "European museums" bought his art.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
    > Acting because of them is. Feeling like a victim because you are the only "X" in the room is also racist or sexist Still accusing the victims of racism, boring. And this drivel is a symptom your failure to understand racism at all, and why you're exhibiting racism.
    - antisoeu 6y ago
      What's boring is your inability to understand an argument or logic. It's not me who is exhibiting racism here. Again, feeling like a victim because of skin color or sex of people surrounding you is obviously racist or sexist, respectively.