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There is difference between conspiracies and conspiracy theories - this list shows mostly information about conspiracies, and less information about people and

There is difference between conspiracies and conspiracy theories - this list shows mostly information about conspiracies, and less information about people and theories that predicted them before official uncovering (this would make them conspiracy theories proven true). I think a lot of conspiracies about which we learned post-factum prove mostly that they are really hard to spot.

jeffreyrogers 6y ago
Which is kind of funny, because the common argument against conspiracies is "you really think this many people could keep a secret?"
- bad_extension 6y ago
  I think it depends on scale. A lot of proven conspiracies are goverment cover-ups about some exact events (like killing certain people or medical tests) or something closed for one industry (like oil companies hiding data about global warming). Conspiracy theories often create much bigger visions, spanning across multiple goverments (often opposing each other) e.x Moon landing hoax, flat/hollow Earth or thousands of unconnected people (chemtrails, some medical theories).
- galaxyLogic 6y ago
  I think we've learned from the Trump era that you don't need to try to keep things secret. Even if you explicitly try to bring to light things like poor handling of Covid by the Trump administration large portions of people will not believe that. So I think something similar may happen inside governments, most government employees believe and accept the official truth, and don't try to spread a counter-narrative, or be critical about the official truth. Truth is what benefits the person telling the truth and it usually does not benefit you to be critical of the official version. If we all believe it is the truth then who's gonna say it is not, except crackpots and people we label as such. Who wants to be labeled crackpot?

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There is difference between conspiracies and conspiracy theories - this list shows mostly information about conspiracies, and less information about people and

by bad_extension 6y ago

jeffreyrogers 6y ago
Which is kind of funny, because the common argument against conspiracies is "you really think this many people could keep a secret?"
- bad_extension 6y ago
  I think it depends on scale. A lot of proven conspiracies are goverment cover-ups about some exact events (like killing certain people or medical tests) or something closed for one industry (like oil companies hiding data about global warming). Conspiracy theories often create much bigger visions, spanning across multiple goverments (often opposing each other) e.x Moon landing hoax, flat/hollow Earth or thousands of unconnected people (chemtrails, some medical theories).
- galaxyLogic 6y ago
  I think we've learned from the Trump era that you don't need to try to keep things secret. Even if you explicitly try to bring to light things like poor handling of Covid by the Trump administration large portions of people will not believe that. So I think something similar may happen inside governments, most government employees believe and accept the official truth, and don't try to spread a counter-narrative, or be critical about the official truth. Truth is what benefits the person telling the truth and it usually does not benefit you to be critical of the official version. If we all believe it is the truth then who's gonna say it is not, except crackpots and people we label as such. Who wants to be labeled crackpot?