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Rushing half-finished products out, offering little/zero support is the new Microsoft. The reason $MSFT loves open source is because they can get press hype ov
by robbyt 6y ago
Rushing half-finished products out, offering little/zero support is the new Microsoft.
The reason $MSFT loves open source is because they can get press hype over projects that are 75% complete (which is the main goal), and they don't even need to support it, document it, or make it actually work.
- lallysingh 6y agoNew? Windows 95 comes to mind.
- ConceptJunkie 6y agoDOS 3.0 comes to mind as well.
- corty 6y agoHalf-finished releases haven been Microsofts SOP since forever. And especially for payware, bugs are only fixed in the next release, so you need to buy the subscription or the new release.
- uncledave 6y agoYeah I think you nailed it there actually. That's exactly their modus operandi. What's even worse is they have managed to abstract most of the support away in this cycle. You can't get enterprise support now because they gutted that entirely. You can't get them to do anything on github because they keep moving all the projects around and erasing them all or auto closing the tickets and no one on first line support knows anything now other than how to reset a Microsoft account password.
- pjmlp 6y agoIf it works for Facebook and Google, with its legions of coffee shop developers, why not for others.
- naikrovek 6y ago> Yeah I think you nailed it there actually. That's exactly their modus operandi. They're following the "rules" from "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", remember. Specifically, the "Release early and often" bit, for the purposes of this conversation. Microsoft are considered "good open source citizens" because of the changes they've made to follow the written non-rules as well as the the unwritten rules. If you're going to fault Microsoft for following the rules, fault EVERYONE ELSE that does it as well. I want people to realize that they crap on Microsoft hard for things that they gladly accept from other developers or other companies. The double standards in the IT community are absolutely insane.
- delusional 6y agoI think Microsoft gets more shit exactly because people expect more of them. They are the giants. they aren't a scrappy startup that needs to release or go bankrupt. Microsoft are seen as the safe choice, so their stuff has to "just work". That's obviously a bad place for innovation within Microsoft, but i don't really think anyone cares about the future of Microsoft.
- naikrovek 6y agoPeople having high expectations of Microsoft is not Microsoft's problem. Microsoft are human beings just like the rest of you, and just like any large company, organizational inefficiency handicaps skilled developers a great deal. Base your expectations on reality, and you'll have a much better time.
- uncledave 6y agoThe thing is 99% of what I get elsewhere does actually work properly. Microsoft are just excessively bad at this.
- tester756 6y agocould you name hyped projects that weren't supported or documented?