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> I kinda agree with you - it will be the case even within the EU (albeit with fewer steps) that VAT for anything must be collected and remitted from the sales

by AnssiH 6y ago

> I kinda agree with you - it will be the case even within the EU (albeit with fewer steps) that VAT for anything must be collected and remitted from the sales country to the purchasers country. But unlike the UK import VAT scheme, the EU system will not be mandatory for sellers in all countries worldwide. > It doesn’t take much imagination to see that this could be expanded worldwide, and that as well as paying postage you must also pay the tax to the carrier to submit. This is analogous to how some countries charge arrival / passenger taxes. (UK APD, US - various ‘security’ and ‘arrivals’ fees) You usually pay this to the airline and they must pay it on your behalf. One can hope :)

alibarber 6y ago
I agree - the UK setup here is a bit daft. But it's not the first place in Europe to demand that other places (wherever) register and submit tax there... One example: I live in Finland, and if you were to send me beer in the post (from within or without the EU), then actually Finland would expect you to pay Finnish alcohol exise on it though as they count it as distance selling if you were to orgainse transport of it[1] (by posting it). Of course, it's basically unenforceable, it's a loophole that is heavily exploited, and there is ambiguity surrounding this and free movement of goods. [1] https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/48631/rules_and_procedures_regarding_distance/#2.5-goods-subject-to-excise-duty https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/48631/rule... (Sec. 2.5.1)
- AnssiH 6y ago
  EU is planning on tackling in-EU cross-border excise taxes in 2022: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?qid=1603446886789&uri=CELEX%3A52020DC0312 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?qid=16034468... (point A25) https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_1334 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_...

by AnssiH 6y ago

alibarber 6y ago

I agree - the UK setup here is a bit daft. But it's not the first place in Europe to demand that other places (wherever) register and submit tax there... One example: I live in Finland, and if you were to send me beer in the post (from within or without the EU), then actually Finland would expect you to pay Finnish alcohol exise on it though as they count it as distance selling if you were to orgainse transport of it[1] (by posting it). Of course, it's basically unenforceable, it's a loophole that is heavily exploited, and there is ambiguity surrounding this and free movement of goods. [1] https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/48631/rules_and_procedures_regarding_distance/#2.5-goods-subject-to-excise-duty https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/48631/rule... (Sec. 2.5.1)

AnssiH 6y ago
EU is planning on tackling in-EU cross-border excise taxes in 2022: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?qid=1603446886789&uri=CELEX%3A52020DC0312 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?qid=16034468... (point A25) https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_1334 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_...