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Also I would like to point out that any package sent from UK to EU and vice versa will have to go through customs office. You will have to pay VAT at the custom

Also I would like to point out that any package sent from UK to EU and vice versa will have to go through customs office. You will have to pay VAT at the customs office when you receive a package from UK. You will also usually pay flat rate fee for processing at customs office (to your postal service). This will affect all packages even gifts with low value (change in EU after 2020). Receiving small low value packages will be very inefficient (a 10 GBP package can have 10+ euro import duty plus fees). UK and EU only agreed on zero customs fee - which is small compared to VAT (usually around 20%).

ThePadawan 6y ago
Welcome to the Swiss experience! Now would be a good opportunity to open a package forwarding service or package holding service in a neighboring country. (That's pretty much the only way to buy goods from German Amazon etc. into Switzerland without paying those unpredictable customs fees.)
- wielebny 6y ago
  Are these services legal?
  - ThePadawan 6y ago
    Yes. For clarification: To ship a product from Germany (DE) to Switzerland (CH): The package forwarding service XYZ is a company registered in both DE (as XYZ DE GmbH) and CH (as XYZ Switzerland AG). You (the customer) order a package to be shipped to XYZ DE GmbH. That company pays the toll on the goods, then ships them from XYZ CH AG to your private address in Switzerland. This is basically not a different process than normal shipping, except it doesn't require the seller (in Germany) to do toll declarations and pay the exorbitant DE->CH shipping. Since CH isn't in the EU, those are really big obstacles. A lot of shops in DE just won't ship to CH, or demand upwards of 25€ for shipping (but not tolls - you'll be out another 20€ or more for that).
AnssiH 6y ago
> even gifts with low value (change in EU after 2020). What change is that? AFAICS there have been no changes and no proposals to change the directive 2006/79/EC which covers the 45 EUR gift exception: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX%3A32006L0079 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX%3A... For commercial packages the changes wil apply on 2021-07-01. However, note that there will be several improvements to the system: - The seller/marketplace can pay for VAT for under-150 EUR packages so the recipient does not need to pay (IOSS system) - similar to the UK system in OP, but optional to seller. - The carriers can use a simplified customs process to declare under-150 EUR packages in bulk, lowering their costs. https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/modernising-vat-cross-border-ecommerce_en https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/modernisi...

ThePadawan 6y ago

Welcome to the Swiss experience! Now would be a good opportunity to open a package forwarding service or package holding service in a neighboring country. (That's pretty much the only way to buy goods from German Amazon etc. into Switzerland without paying those unpredictable customs fees.)

wielebny 6y ago
Are these services legal?
- ThePadawan 6y ago
  Yes. For clarification: To ship a product from Germany (DE) to Switzerland (CH): The package forwarding service XYZ is a company registered in both DE (as XYZ DE GmbH) and CH (as XYZ Switzerland AG). You (the customer) order a package to be shipped to XYZ DE GmbH. That company pays the toll on the goods, then ships them from XYZ CH AG to your private address in Switzerland. This is basically not a different process than normal shipping, except it doesn't require the seller (in Germany) to do toll declarations and pay the exorbitant DE->CH shipping. Since CH isn't in the EU, those are really big obstacles. A lot of shops in DE just won't ship to CH, or demand upwards of 25€ for shipping (but not tolls - you'll be out another 20€ or more for that).

AnssiH 6y ago

> even gifts with low value (change in EU after 2020). What change is that? AFAICS there have been no changes and no proposals to change the directive 2006/79/EC which covers the 45 EUR gift exception: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX%3A32006L0079 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX%3A... For commercial packages the changes wil apply on 2021-07-01. However, note that there will be several improvements to the system: - The seller/marketplace can pay for VAT for under-150 EUR packages so the recipient does not need to pay (IOSS system) - similar to the UK system in OP, but optional to seller. - The carriers can use a simplified customs process to declare under-150 EUR packages in bulk, lowering their costs. https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/modernising-vat-cross-border-ecommerce_en https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/modernisi...