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> Why don't we have more outrage against this outdated institution created out of 1600 era values? Americans with nice lives, particularly the types to frequen

> Why don't we have more outrage against this outdated institution created out of 1600 era values? Americans with nice lives, particularly the types to frequent HN, are insulated from the effects of our criminal justice system. Concern for schooling takes precedence.

Bostonian 6y ago
Americans who live in low-crime areas are somewhat insulated from criminal justice "reform" that sets criminals free and increases crime rates.
- KittenInABox 6y ago
  [This comment previously contained an assumption that reducing poverty reduces crime rates. A poster commented that there isn't as much of a correlation as this comment stated so I removed it.]
  - Bostonian 6y ago
    Poverty rates fell in the 1960s, but crime rose.
    - KittenInABox 6y ago
      After doing a brief amount of research, you're probably right. Thank you for correcting me.
    - aegis4244 6y ago
      Leaded gas.
Melting_Harps 6y ago
> Americans with nice lives, particularly the types to frequent HN, are insulated from the effects of our criminal justice system. Concern for schooling takes precedence. It's called selective application of the Law, and the US has 3 possibly 4 tiered systems depending on Class strata from what I can tell. The first level applies to the affluent and politically connected classes that get to legalize their crimes and somehow still get rewarded for their behavior with continued contracts with Government. FAANG workers have to recognize they are part of the problem: they work for employers who actively abuse privacy laws, labour laws, tax laws, and God only knows what other clandestine operations they have with military and intelligence agencies and yet its some sort of talking point that those people are proud to remind you of any chance they have that they belong to this class (of only vicariously) as though it had any merit or prestige. Until that sentiment changes, I doubt any well constructed from of oratory on HN is going to do much if anything to that end, its definitely a cultural and social issue and class and your affiliation to it seems to be a much bigger component than anything like skin colour or living in the right neighborhood, zip codes.

Bostonian 6y ago

Americans who live in low-crime areas are somewhat insulated from criminal justice "reform" that sets criminals free and increases crime rates.

KittenInABox 6y ago
[This comment previously contained an assumption that reducing poverty reduces crime rates. A poster commented that there isn't as much of a correlation as this comment stated so I removed it.]
- Bostonian 6y ago
  Poverty rates fell in the 1960s, but crime rose.
  - KittenInABox 6y ago
    After doing a brief amount of research, you're probably right. Thank you for correcting me.
  - aegis4244 6y ago
    Leaded gas.

Melting_Harps 6y ago

> Americans with nice lives, particularly the types to frequent HN, are insulated from the effects of our criminal justice system. Concern for schooling takes precedence. It's called selective application of the Law, and the US has 3 possibly 4 tiered systems depending on Class strata from what I can tell. The first level applies to the affluent and politically connected classes that get to legalize their crimes and somehow still get rewarded for their behavior with continued contracts with Government. FAANG workers have to recognize they are part of the problem: they work for employers who actively abuse privacy laws, labour laws, tax laws, and God only knows what other clandestine operations they have with military and intelligence agencies and yet its some sort of talking point that those people are proud to remind you of any chance they have that they belong to this class (of only vicariously) as though it had any merit or prestige. Until that sentiment changes, I doubt any well constructed from of oratory on HN is going to do much if anything to that end, its definitely a cultural and social issue and class and your affiliation to it seems to be a much bigger component than anything like skin colour or living in the right neighborhood, zip codes.