They still are pretty pitiful across Europe even after that, compared to Canada and Australia as well as the US. In the UK the problem seems to be the company

They still are pretty pitiful across Europe even after that, compared to Canada and Australia as well as the US. In the UK the problem seems to be the company owner/manager class see software people roughly the same as any other office worker, rather than as skilled producers of products. As a result they pay peanuts, and then are surprised when they get less than stellar results. Not sure what the reason might be elsewhere, but across the rest of the continent the pay seems even worse.