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Good point. And the App Store is not a retail store - developers PAY THEM to distribute their wares. They are Apple's customers too!

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supernova87a 6y ago
You may not know this, but plenty of physical retail stores charge manufacturers of goods to display their wares / offer shelf space for sale.
- webmobdev 6y ago
  Yes, but it is not the norm. And physical retail stores can justify it to some extent because storage / display space is actually limited and obviously they would like to give the most space to products that sells fast and / or are more profitable. (This is why FMCG - fast moving consumer goods - are so heavily advertised. Brand awareness helps their sales, and thus shops are more ready to stock it.) Apple has no real justification here, especially when it forcefully denies both the creators and the consumers a choice in the matter on many of its platforms.
  - miked85 6y ago
    > Yes, but it is not the norm. It very much is the norm [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotting_fee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotting_fee
    - webmobdev 6y ago
      Just because something is a popular business practice in the US doesn't make it a norm around the world too. And just because it found acceptance in one geography or some industry doesn't mean we have to accept the same it in another. A physical retail outlet is not the same as an online one, especially one that only sells digital products (software).
throw0101a 6y ago
> developers PAY THEM to distribute their wares. They are Apple's customers too! See stocking fees in physical retail stores: * https://financialpost.com/news/retail-marketing/loblaw-follows-walmart-in-imposing-new-fees-on-suppliers-to-help-pay-for-upgrades https://financialpost.com/news/retail-marketing/loblaw-follo... * https://www.canadiangrocer.com/top-stories/headlines/loblaw-to-charge-largest-suppliers-a-new-handling-fee-76667 https://www.canadiangrocer.com/top-stories/headlines/loblaw-...
- webmobdev 6y ago
  I do know about stocking fees and display fees. And also that it is not the norm, even if some would like it to be. (And phyaical retail outlets can justify it to some extent because space is actually limited in many stores and obviously they would prefer to give the most space to products that sells fast and / or are more profitable.) Apple has no real justification here, especially when it forcefully denies both the creators and the consumers a choice in the matter on many of its platforms.

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supernova87a 6y ago

You may not know this, but plenty of physical retail stores charge manufacturers of goods to display their wares / offer shelf space for sale.

webmobdev 6y ago
Yes, but it is not the norm. And physical retail stores can justify it to some extent because storage / display space is actually limited and obviously they would like to give the most space to products that sells fast and / or are more profitable. (This is why FMCG - fast moving consumer goods - are so heavily advertised. Brand awareness helps their sales, and thus shops are more ready to stock it.) Apple has no real justification here, especially when it forcefully denies both the creators and the consumers a choice in the matter on many of its platforms.
- miked85 6y ago
  > Yes, but it is not the norm. It very much is the norm [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotting_fee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotting_fee
  - webmobdev 6y ago
    Just because something is a popular business practice in the US doesn't make it a norm around the world too. And just because it found acceptance in one geography or some industry doesn't mean we have to accept the same it in another. A physical retail outlet is not the same as an online one, especially one that only sells digital products (software).

throw0101a 6y ago

> developers PAY THEM to distribute their wares. They are Apple's customers too! See stocking fees in physical retail stores: * https://financialpost.com/news/retail-marketing/loblaw-follows-walmart-in-imposing-new-fees-on-suppliers-to-help-pay-for-upgrades https://financialpost.com/news/retail-marketing/loblaw-follo... * https://www.canadiangrocer.com/top-stories/headlines/loblaw-to-charge-largest-suppliers-a-new-handling-fee-76667 https://www.canadiangrocer.com/top-stories/headlines/loblaw-...

webmobdev 6y ago
I do know about stocking fees and display fees. And also that it is not the norm, even if some would like it to be. (And phyaical retail outlets can justify it to some extent because space is actually limited in many stores and obviously they would prefer to give the most space to products that sells fast and / or are more profitable.) Apple has no real justification here, especially when it forcefully denies both the creators and the consumers a choice in the matter on many of its platforms.