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> It seems kind of disengenuous to blame this on trump Why? Trump's posts to Twitter are mostly lies. Have a look: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump https:/

> It seems kind of disengenuous to blame this on trump Why? Trump's posts to Twitter are mostly lies. Have a look: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump He's still lying about the results of the election. He claims repeatedly that it was a "rigged election", that the election was "the biggest SCAM in our nation’s history", and that really he "won big" "in a landslide". All of these claims are false. Trump has demonstrated that he simply doesn't care what's true. It's banana republic stuff.

thatguy0900 6y ago
People have been pointing out the media lying before trump got in office. He definitely pushed that in a big way to the mainstream, and is lying about a lot of things himself, but the media couldnt have gotten away with creating narratives scot free forever.
rangoon626 6y ago
There was election fraud though. https://hereistheevidence.com/ https://hereistheevidence.com/
- clouddrover 6y ago
  Uh huh. And how many court cases about this supposedly fraudulent election have succeeded? You know, legal proceedings in which you must meet an actual standard of evidence.
  - rangoon626 6y ago
    When I read this, I had to do a double-check and make sure I wasn't on reddit
    - clouddrover 6y ago
      So zero court cases then.
      - pmiller2 6y ago
        Well, there was that one Republican guy who attempted to vote on behalf of his dead mother. That's voter fraud though, not election fraud.
        rangoon626 6y ago
        You guys are so deluded. But I understand, it makes life easy.
        clouddrover 6y ago
        Here's a recording of Trump attempting to commit election fraud. But the good news is his attempt failed: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/donald-trump-georgia-election-joe-biden-congress/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/donald-trump-geo...
        rangoon626 6y ago
        And here's a quote from a recording that Biden did: “We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Biden said in a clip posted to Instagram Oct. 24. His words, not mine! BTW, you can "fact check" that all you want but whichever way you dice it, he's senile and will likely be quickly replaced by Harris.
        clouddrover 6y ago
        And what's that got to do with Trump constantly lying and falsely claiming that the election was somehow "rigged"? In the time since this article on disinformation was written Trump has incited a mob to invade the Capitol Building, again based on his false claims that the election was "stolen". He's not making America great, he's making it worse. He's trying as hard as he can to turn America into a banana republic. It's not that it's a deliberate goal. It's worse than that. He simply doesn't care.

thatguy0900 6y ago

People have been pointing out the media lying before trump got in office. He definitely pushed that in a big way to the mainstream, and is lying about a lot of things himself, but the media couldnt have gotten away with creating narratives scot free forever.

rangoon626 6y ago

There was election fraud though. https://hereistheevidence.com/ https://hereistheevidence.com/

clouddrover 6y ago
Uh huh. And how many court cases about this supposedly fraudulent election have succeeded? You know, legal proceedings in which you must meet an actual standard of evidence.
- rangoon626 6y ago
  When I read this, I had to do a double-check and make sure I wasn't on reddit
  - clouddrover 6y ago
    So zero court cases then.
    - pmiller2 6y ago
      Well, there was that one Republican guy who attempted to vote on behalf of his dead mother. That's voter fraud though, not election fraud.
      - rangoon626 6y ago
        You guys are so deluded. But I understand, it makes life easy.
        clouddrover 6y ago
        Here's a recording of Trump attempting to commit election fraud. But the good news is his attempt failed: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/donald-trump-georgia-election-joe-biden-congress/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/donald-trump-geo...
        rangoon626 6y ago
        And here's a quote from a recording that Biden did: “We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Biden said in a clip posted to Instagram Oct. 24. His words, not mine! BTW, you can "fact check" that all you want but whichever way you dice it, he's senile and will likely be quickly replaced by Harris.
        clouddrover 6y ago
        And what's that got to do with Trump constantly lying and falsely claiming that the election was somehow "rigged"? In the time since this article on disinformation was written Trump has incited a mob to invade the Capitol Building, again based on his false claims that the election was "stolen". He's not making America great, he's making it worse. He's trying as hard as he can to turn America into a banana republic. It's not that it's a deliberate goal. It's worse than that. He simply doesn't care.