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Society has a lot of tolerance for stupid people. In normal times their stupidity isn’t spreading an infectious disease that’s killing thousands of people every

by vosper 6y ago

Society has a lot of tolerance for stupid people. In normal times their stupidity isn’t spreading an infectious disease that’s killing thousands of people every day in the US alone (3,764 people died in the US from Covid yesterday)

nerdponx 6y ago
A good analogy might be the penalties for driving while intoxicated, which is even more likely to kill or seriously injure somebody than going to a public place while infected with SARS-CoV-2. We as a society have tremendous tolerance for these people (at least in the US), who are less "stupid" and more some combination of "dangerously selfish" and "mentally ill". Many such people still have driver's licenses, and you only really get punished for a DWI when you actually do kill or injure somebody. So if that is the standard society has, we should apply it to COVID-19 to be consistent. If someone dies of a Covid case that is traceable to your own negligence (e.g. going to work with symptoms and no mask), you should be held liable for manslaughter.
- Danjg09 6y ago
  That is a terrible analogy. A. Consuming alochol is a choice. And B. Alcohol is not a normal part of human biology, pathogens are. Someone being sick let alone for a virus with a 99.9% survival rate is not justification for removing their freedom. NO ONE has the right to do that. These are the same authoritarian groups who have made it legal to knowingly infect someone with HIV. So which one is it? My entire family just got Covid over the last 2 weeks. And they're all FINE. I specifically went over on Christmas to get infected and get it over with if I did not already have it. That's how much I'm not scared of this virus. Your fear does not mean you get to erode my rights. And the Governor who put infected patients into elderly homes with the actual vulnerable population and killed more people than died on 9/11, sure as hell does not have the right to remove my or your freedom for his dictator urges.
  - thoman23 6y ago
    > "I specifically went over on Christmas to get infected and get it over with if I did not already have it" Logical! >"That's how much I'm not scared of this virus." <swoon> You're like a real life Liam Neeson.
systemvoltage 6y ago
Then there needs to be specificity of the amount of harm thats allowable. The law is a blankslate to make you squirm after 30 years "We told you so in 2021, when the pandemic hit and we moved on". You know the exactly the erosion that happened after 9/11 - patriot act, big brother, surveillance state. Those are all norms now. It's not some high moral ground of freedom thumping people. This is what our grandfathers fought for.
yearight911 6y ago
How do you know because the media told you? They are lying about statistics...... The media lies and many are programmed and brainwashed. Think for your self you’ll be better off

by vosper 6y ago

nerdponx 6y ago

A good analogy might be the penalties for driving while intoxicated, which is even more likely to kill or seriously injure somebody than going to a public place while infected with SARS-CoV-2. We as a society have tremendous tolerance for these people (at least in the US), who are less "stupid" and more some combination of "dangerously selfish" and "mentally ill". Many such people still have driver's licenses, and you only really get punished for a DWI when you actually do kill or injure somebody. So if that is the standard society has, we should apply it to COVID-19 to be consistent. If someone dies of a Covid case that is traceable to your own negligence (e.g. going to work with symptoms and no mask), you should be held liable for manslaughter.

Danjg09 6y ago
That is a terrible analogy. A. Consuming alochol is a choice. And B. Alcohol is not a normal part of human biology, pathogens are. Someone being sick let alone for a virus with a 99.9% survival rate is not justification for removing their freedom. NO ONE has the right to do that. These are the same authoritarian groups who have made it legal to knowingly infect someone with HIV. So which one is it? My entire family just got Covid over the last 2 weeks. And they're all FINE. I specifically went over on Christmas to get infected and get it over with if I did not already have it. That's how much I'm not scared of this virus. Your fear does not mean you get to erode my rights. And the Governor who put infected patients into elderly homes with the actual vulnerable population and killed more people than died on 9/11, sure as hell does not have the right to remove my or your freedom for his dictator urges.
- thoman23 6y ago
  > "I specifically went over on Christmas to get infected and get it over with if I did not already have it" Logical! >"That's how much I'm not scared of this virus." <swoon> You're like a real life Liam Neeson.

systemvoltage 6y ago

Then there needs to be specificity of the amount of harm thats allowable. The law is a blankslate to make you squirm after 30 years "We told you so in 2021, when the pandemic hit and we moved on". You know the exactly the erosion that happened after 9/11 - patriot act, big brother, surveillance state. Those are all norms now. It's not some high moral ground of freedom thumping people. This is what our grandfathers fought for.

yearight911 6y ago

How do you know because the media told you? They are lying about statistics...... The media lies and many are programmed and brainwashed. Think for your self you’ll be better off