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> They kind of have a point They don't (the claim is the app promotes drug use, which it doesn't), and it's quite likely that it's a reviewer mistake that will

> They kind of have a point They don't (the claim is the app promotes drug use, which it doesn't), and it's quite likely that it's a reviewer mistake that will be overturned once the stink on social media gets big enough to reach the right person.

Angostura 6y ago
> the claim is the app promotes drug use, which it doesn't You don't think it could reinforce the idea that Amphetamines could be a useful tool to preserve wakefulness?
- nyx_ 6y ago
  Like the original post says, they are in fact a useful tool to promote wakefulness, and if you have a problem with wakefulness or attentiveness, you can go to a doctor, get diagnosed, and be prescribed with amphetamines perfectly legally if you so wish.
- deleted 6y ago
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- incongruity 6y ago
  Well - they do actually do that and under certain circumstances, they are used precisely for that. I find the puritanical mindset a little bit of an overreach here.
- zamadatix 6y ago
  You can refrence a truth without promoting it. E.g. Darik's boot and nuke wipes everything but you'd be off your rocker to say it's promoting nuclear war as a result.
- dack 6y ago
  Not op, but no; the app has nothing to do with drugs. I don't think we as a society should be this sensitive/prone to suggestion. If anything, I believe the censorship promotes the idea that people have no responsibility to make their own choices, and we must build to the lowest common denominator. Note, I'm not really making a judgement about whether Apple should be allowed to do this - I think that is harder question.
  - Grustaf 6y ago
    It’s named after a drug that inhibits sleep, and it inhibits sleep. The connection is pretty clear...
    - NeutronStar 6y ago
      The drug doesn't inhibit sleep, that would be caffeine. If you can't even get this right then smh.
- dempseye 6y ago
  They are. Militaries around the world agree. So do doctors who prescribe them for narcolepsy and other disorders. I think it is a good name. The fact remains that in most places amphetamines are an illegal drug when acquired without a prescription. I think he should just rebrand. A name change is not a big deal, given the app has low name recognition in the first place. News of the rebrand will be the first Google result for people who are unaware of it. Apple holds all the cards here. There is little to be gained if he wins, and if he loses he will have to rebrand anyway after much wasted effort.
  - danaliv 6y ago
    I’m told the military has switched to modafinil. No amphetamines anymore.
  - PrefixKitten 6y ago
    He could literally just call it "benzedrex" instead as that is the name of a nearly identically acting but otc stimulant you can grab off the shelf at any walmart lol...
- outspeak 6y ago
  If that was the case, health classes would censor the names of any recreationally-illegal substance. The fact is that Amphetamines are `a useful tool to preserve wakefulness`. Knowing that fact isn't inherently a promotion for the use of them.
- eknkc 6y ago
  That is not an idea though. It is a fact. Why try to hide a fact?
antiterra 6y ago
I think the argument, however tenuous, is that naming a utility after a drug generates a positive association for that drug. It’s not even so much that Apple has to believe this as much as there’s an elevated potential for negative PR. This sort of thing is given even more scrutiny with food items: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_(drink) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_(drink) https://m.riverfronttimes.com/foodblog/2010/01/20/the-beertender-fights-the-man-with-lagunitas-brewing-company https://m.riverfronttimes.com/foodblog/2010/01/20/the-beerte...
anigbrowl 6y ago
They don't (the claim is the app promotes drug use, which it doesn't) It certainly references it. Definitions are fuzzy, and very much in the eye of the beholder.
xadhominemx 6y ago
they named the app after a harmful drug that does the same thing the app purports to do. it is not a stretch at all to view the app as promoting drug use.

Angostura 6y ago

> the claim is the app promotes drug use, which it doesn't You don't think it could reinforce the idea that Amphetamines could be a useful tool to preserve wakefulness?

nyx_ 6y ago
Like the original post says, they are in fact a useful tool to promote wakefulness, and if you have a problem with wakefulness or attentiveness, you can go to a doctor, get diagnosed, and be prescribed with amphetamines perfectly legally if you so wish.
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incongruity 6y ago
Well - they do actually do that and under certain circumstances, they are used precisely for that. I find the puritanical mindset a little bit of an overreach here.
zamadatix 6y ago
You can refrence a truth without promoting it. E.g. Darik's boot and nuke wipes everything but you'd be off your rocker to say it's promoting nuclear war as a result.
dack 6y ago
Not op, but no; the app has nothing to do with drugs. I don't think we as a society should be this sensitive/prone to suggestion. If anything, I believe the censorship promotes the idea that people have no responsibility to make their own choices, and we must build to the lowest common denominator. Note, I'm not really making a judgement about whether Apple should be allowed to do this - I think that is harder question.
- Grustaf 6y ago
  It’s named after a drug that inhibits sleep, and it inhibits sleep. The connection is pretty clear...
  - NeutronStar 6y ago
    The drug doesn't inhibit sleep, that would be caffeine. If you can't even get this right then smh.
dempseye 6y ago
They are. Militaries around the world agree. So do doctors who prescribe them for narcolepsy and other disorders. I think it is a good name. The fact remains that in most places amphetamines are an illegal drug when acquired without a prescription. I think he should just rebrand. A name change is not a big deal, given the app has low name recognition in the first place. News of the rebrand will be the first Google result for people who are unaware of it. Apple holds all the cards here. There is little to be gained if he wins, and if he loses he will have to rebrand anyway after much wasted effort.
- danaliv 6y ago
  I’m told the military has switched to modafinil. No amphetamines anymore.
- PrefixKitten 6y ago
  He could literally just call it "benzedrex" instead as that is the name of a nearly identically acting but otc stimulant you can grab off the shelf at any walmart lol...
outspeak 6y ago
If that was the case, health classes would censor the names of any recreationally-illegal substance. The fact is that Amphetamines are `a useful tool to preserve wakefulness`. Knowing that fact isn't inherently a promotion for the use of them.
eknkc 6y ago
That is not an idea though. It is a fact. Why try to hide a fact?

antiterra 6y ago

I think the argument, however tenuous, is that naming a utility after a drug generates a positive association for that drug. It’s not even so much that Apple has to believe this as much as there’s an elevated potential for negative PR. This sort of thing is given even more scrutiny with food items: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_(drink) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_(drink) https://m.riverfronttimes.com/foodblog/2010/01/20/the-beertender-fights-the-man-with-lagunitas-brewing-company https://m.riverfronttimes.com/foodblog/2010/01/20/the-beerte...

anigbrowl 6y ago

They don't (the claim is the app promotes drug use, which it doesn't) It certainly references it. Definitions are fuzzy, and very much in the eye of the beholder.

xadhominemx 6y ago

they named the app after a harmful drug that does the same thing the app purports to do. it is not a stretch at all to view the app as promoting drug use.