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This person was not a US citizen, and needed to remain on the only path to a green card. Your options feel more limiting when that happens. They clearly didn't

This person was not a US citizen, and needed to remain on the only path to a green card. Your options feel more limiting when that happens. They clearly didn't want to rattle the cage.

andrewmcwatters 6y ago
Attorneys will happily take your money and fight for you. Use what options you have.
- xvector 6y ago
  This is easy to say but very difficult to actually do. Immigrants are typically more desperate and companies take advantage of that.
  - bdowling 6y ago
    > Immigrants are typically more desperate and companies take advantage of that. An immigrant non-citizen employee who is harmed by an employer has just as much of a right to sue the employer as a citizen employee.
    - PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
      Have you paid attention to the behavior of USCIS employees over the last 4 years, notably towards people with backgrounds in predominantly Muslim countries (as the author of TFA appears to be)? It's not so much that you're wrong, more that it doesn't matter that you're right.
      - bdowling 6y ago
        An employer-employee dispute will usually be litigated in either a state court or a US District Court (Article III court). USCIS, a federal Article II agency, has no influence over either court.
        PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
        The influence of USCIS over the court doesn't matter much if the (ex)employee has been detained and removed by the time the court hears the case. And it's not that companies have to be particularly malicious for this to happen: if they terminate an H1* employee, they are required to notify USCIS. And then there's the bigger picture: living in a country knowing that the only legal basis for your presence here is a visa tied to you being employed by your current employer, and now considering whether or not to launch legal action against that employer. p.s. I'm a former H1B immigrant, Green Card holder, and now US Citizen.
- mhh__ 6y ago
  How many hundreds of thousands of dollars would it take to lose against Apple? Obviously there's a chance but this is literally like taking on Oceania from 1984 - Apple's apple-isms and the famous reality distortion field really do make the comparison slightly alarming, thinking about it.

This person was not a US citizen, and needed to remain on the only path to a green card. Your options feel more limiting when that happens. They clearly didn't want to rattle the cage.

andrewmcwatters 6y ago

Attorneys will happily take your money and fight for you. Use what options you have.

xvector 6y ago
This is easy to say but very difficult to actually do. Immigrants are typically more desperate and companies take advantage of that.
- bdowling 6y ago
  > Immigrants are typically more desperate and companies take advantage of that. An immigrant non-citizen employee who is harmed by an employer has just as much of a right to sue the employer as a citizen employee.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
    Have you paid attention to the behavior of USCIS employees over the last 4 years, notably towards people with backgrounds in predominantly Muslim countries (as the author of TFA appears to be)? It's not so much that you're wrong, more that it doesn't matter that you're right.
    - bdowling 6y ago
      An employer-employee dispute will usually be litigated in either a state court or a US District Court (Article III court). USCIS, a federal Article II agency, has no influence over either court.
      - PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
        The influence of USCIS over the court doesn't matter much if the (ex)employee has been detained and removed by the time the court hears the case. And it's not that companies have to be particularly malicious for this to happen: if they terminate an H1* employee, they are required to notify USCIS. And then there's the bigger picture: living in a country knowing that the only legal basis for your presence here is a visa tied to you being employed by your current employer, and now considering whether or not to launch legal action against that employer. p.s. I'm a former H1B immigrant, Green Card holder, and now US Citizen.
mhh__ 6y ago
How many hundreds of thousands of dollars would it take to lose against Apple? Obviously there's a chance but this is literally like taking on Oceania from 1984 - Apple's apple-isms and the famous reality distortion field really do make the comparison slightly alarming, thinking about it.