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We are much closer the Brave New World than 1984.

Jon_Lowtek 6y ago
as can be seen by the caste system created due to abandoning natural birth in favor of genetically engineered babies being made at scale in factories.
HarryHirsch 6y ago
Are we? Where do we find characters like Mustapha Mond? Instead we got the likes of Bezos, Musk and Zuckerberg. No opinion about David Shaw and Jim Simons.
albertkawmi 6y ago
Your comment reminded me of this web comic comparison https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webcomic-2/amp/ https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/hu...
- majewsky 6y ago
  Ungoogled link: https://biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webcomic-2/ https://biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webc...
  - waterhouse 6y ago
    I've seen this a few times. I'll say what I said last time: If many people are substantially harmed by wasting their time and energy on distractions, then those who waste less time will outcompete them. Whether the mechanism is common wisdom analogous to "don't drink alone or before the evening", parents teaching their kids in certain ways, religions that consider much "wasteful" entertainment to be sinful, or genes that contribute to conditions perhaps resembling autism where colorful flashy video registers as annoying or even painful, the problem seems likely to create its own solutions. One of the premises of "Brave New World" is that all children are raised by the State, and are forcibly (a) oxygen-deprived in the womb to limit their intelligence and (b) subjected throughout childhood to indoctrination and hypnotherapy to make them say "I'm happy and content with my life, and my only desire is to chase consumer goods". I'm not sure why so many people seem to forget this.
    - lawtalkinghuman 6y ago
      > I'm happy and content with my life, and my only desire is to chase consumer goods Seems a pretty good summary of the whole wellness/"gratitude"/mindfulness culture that now exists and seems to think that an epidemic of mental ill-health can be fixed through breathing exercises and meditation apps for one's smartphone.

as can be seen by the caste system created due to abandoning natural birth in favor of genetically engineered babies being made at scale in factories.

HarryHirsch 6y ago

Are we? Where do we find characters like Mustapha Mond? Instead we got the likes of Bezos, Musk and Zuckerberg. No opinion about David Shaw and Jim Simons.

albertkawmi 6y ago

Your comment reminded me of this web comic comparison https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webcomic-2/amp/ https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/hu...

majewsky 6y ago
Ungoogled link: https://biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webcomic-2/ https://biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webc...
- waterhouse 6y ago
  I've seen this a few times. I'll say what I said last time: If many people are substantially harmed by wasting their time and energy on distractions, then those who waste less time will outcompete them. Whether the mechanism is common wisdom analogous to "don't drink alone or before the evening", parents teaching their kids in certain ways, religions that consider much "wasteful" entertainment to be sinful, or genes that contribute to conditions perhaps resembling autism where colorful flashy video registers as annoying or even painful, the problem seems likely to create its own solutions. One of the premises of "Brave New World" is that all children are raised by the State, and are forcibly (a) oxygen-deprived in the womb to limit their intelligence and (b) subjected throughout childhood to indoctrination and hypnotherapy to make them say "I'm happy and content with my life, and my only desire is to chase consumer goods". I'm not sure why so many people seem to forget this.
  - lawtalkinghuman 6y ago
    > I'm happy and content with my life, and my only desire is to chase consumer goods Seems a pretty good summary of the whole wellness/"gratitude"/mindfulness culture that now exists and seems to think that an epidemic of mental ill-health can be fixed through breathing exercises and meditation apps for one's smartphone.