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100% agreed on the increasing importance of video game interfaces. Nice to see I am not alone in that thought.

by sali0 6y ago

sovietmudkipz 6y ago
Every now and again as I play RTS (and other) games I imagine how the interface could be used in for business, engineering or marketing. There’s potential, IMO. The test (as I imagine it now) is making work fun enough that my 13 year old self would want to do work. At any rate, ideas are cheap. Prototypes and implementation are what matters. We’re speaking publically but I would like to know what you imagine about when you think about this topic?
- jodrellblank 6y ago
  I sometimes wonder what it would take to visualise the state of a system in a game engine such as OpenTTD[1]. Then I remember the video of VMware's VMWorld 2017 event keynote speech[2] where they did such a poor example of VR - cubes representing virtual machines which you could virtually throw into the trash to delete them, or pick them up and move them to another host to use VMotion. It was a poor combination of low quality uninspired use of graphics and 3D space, and individually managing servers one at a time for things VMware DRS will do (load balancing moving of VMs between hosts) and things you don't want to be doing by hand (individually provisioning and removing servers). I'm not convinced that a game engine is capable of showing enough information compared to flat text, tables of numbers, graphs, and things made as web pages or documents where you can scroll down several pages. In a game engine, the things you aren't looking at end up far away, smaller, easier to miss. Text usually has to be bigger to be readable. How do you bring things to attention without just replicating a web browser showing a page of stats in a game engine? How do you make "work" possible without replicating a right click menu in-game, or a popup Quake style command line? How do you envisage an RTS game interface doing work - what kind of work, and how does the interface help with it? > "The test (as I imagine it now) is making work fun enough that my 13 year old self would want to do work." A game you have to play for 6+ hours continuously, cannot quit, cannot pause, cannot undo/retry, almost cannot die or lose, has no story, no end to get to, and is a repetitive grind? [1] Isometric world map full of moving parts, metrics and graphs https://linuxhint.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/OpenTTD.jpg https://linuxhint.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/OpenTTD.jpg [1] which has overlays for things like cargo pressure in two directions https://www.openttd.org/screenshots/1.4-cargodist.png https://www.openttd.org/screenshots/1.4-cargodist.png that could be displaying network link load, etc. [2] https://lukaswinnnet.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/vmworldeu2017_d1keynotepatalan.jpg https://lukaswinnnet.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/vmworldeu20... [2] https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EiKyR4X5kxs/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EiKyR4X5kxs/maxresdefault.jpg

100% agreed on the increasing importance of video game interfaces. Nice to see I am not alone in that thought.

by sali0 6y ago

100% agreed on the increasing importance of video game interfaces. Nice to see I am not alone in that thought.

Every now and again as I play RTS (and other) games I imagine how the interface could be used in for business, engineering or marketing. There’s potential, IMO. The test (as I imagine it now) is making work fun enough that my 13 year old self would want to do work. At any rate, ideas are cheap. Prototypes and implementation are what matters. We’re speaking publically but I would like to know what you imagine about when you think about this topic?

jodrellblank 6y ago
I sometimes wonder what it would take to visualise the state of a system in a game engine such as OpenTTD[1]. Then I remember the video of VMware's VMWorld 2017 event keynote speech[2] where they did such a poor example of VR - cubes representing virtual machines which you could virtually throw into the trash to delete them, or pick them up and move them to another host to use VMotion. It was a poor combination of low quality uninspired use of graphics and 3D space, and individually managing servers one at a time for things VMware DRS will do (load balancing moving of VMs between hosts) and things you don't want to be doing by hand (individually provisioning and removing servers). I'm not convinced that a game engine is capable of showing enough information compared to flat text, tables of numbers, graphs, and things made as web pages or documents where you can scroll down several pages. In a game engine, the things you aren't looking at end up far away, smaller, easier to miss. Text usually has to be bigger to be readable. How do you bring things to attention without just replicating a web browser showing a page of stats in a game engine? How do you make "work" possible without replicating a right click menu in-game, or a popup Quake style command line? How do you envisage an RTS game interface doing work - what kind of work, and how does the interface help with it? > "The test (as I imagine it now) is making work fun enough that my 13 year old self would want to do work." A game you have to play for 6+ hours continuously, cannot quit, cannot pause, cannot undo/retry, almost cannot die or lose, has no story, no end to get to, and is a repetitive grind? [1] Isometric world map full of moving parts, metrics and graphs https://linuxhint.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/OpenTTD.jpg https://linuxhint.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/OpenTTD.jpg [1] which has overlays for things like cargo pressure in two directions https://www.openttd.org/screenshots/1.4-cargodist.png https://www.openttd.org/screenshots/1.4-cargodist.png that could be displaying network link load, etc. [2] https://lukaswinnnet.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/vmworldeu2017_d1keynotepatalan.jpg https://lukaswinnnet.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/vmworldeu20... [2] https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EiKyR4X5kxs/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EiKyR4X5kxs/maxresdefault.jpg