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> The reality is that .Net is very competitive in terms of development speed if you deploy on Windows; elsewhere you'll likely have to figure out stuff and suff

by mythz 6y ago

> The reality is that .Net is very competitive in terms of development speed if you deploy on Windows; elsewhere you'll likely have to figure out stuff and suffer from being on a second-class platform. That's nowhere near reality, .NET 5 (FKA .NET Core) has flawless first-class support for Linux, the whole deployment experience is even better on Linux since you have access to the entire Linux tools + ecosystem. Which I've been deploying to for years, I still develop on Windows but only ever deploy our .NET (Core) Apps to Linux (since the same App runs flawlessly on Windows + Linux). The Windows-only .NET Framework (excl Mono) is now considered legacy, it's continually supported but all new development + features are being invested in the .NET 5+ cross-platform runtime which is now what ".NET" refers to.

dmix 6y ago
Even though you may be right I’d still fear being a second class citizen on Linux. And I’ve heard nothing but positive things for .NET. Not that Electron is appealing either but I get the draw fully.
- mythz 6y ago
  This fear is unfounded, the primary value proposition of .NET (FKA .NET Core) is that it's a high-performance cross-platform runtime that has first-class support for Linux. It's been designed to be "cloud-ready" from the start where it's adopted a high-performance core with a leaner, modular runtime that supports side-by-side installations since Microsoft wants it to run well in the Cloud of which all cloud providers (inc. Azure) predominantly deploy to Linux VMs, whose trend will continue to dominate. You can view the supported Linux distributions on their installation page which includes Linux binaries for x64, Arm32 + Arm64 including package managers for its supported Linux distributions (Alpine,CentOS,Debian,Fedora,openSUSE,RHEL,SLES,Ubuntu) [1]. As well as maintaining multiple Docker configurations for popular Distros [2]. With Linux now being a supported platform means if you have run into an issue you can report it where their full-time resources will resolve it. The old days of using .NET to push Windows is gone, the future is the cloud and Azure doesn't care if you run Linux or Windows VMs, it's all the same to them, they're still collecting rent for usage of their servers by the hour. [1] https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet/5.0 https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet/5.0 [2] https://hub.docker.com/_/microsoft-dotnet-aspnet https://hub.docker.com/_/microsoft-dotnet-aspnet

by mythz 6y ago

dmix 6y ago

Even though you may be right I’d still fear being a second class citizen on Linux. And I’ve heard nothing but positive things for .NET. Not that Electron is appealing either but I get the draw fully.

mythz 6y ago
This fear is unfounded, the primary value proposition of .NET (FKA .NET Core) is that it's a high-performance cross-platform runtime that has first-class support for Linux. It's been designed to be "cloud-ready" from the start where it's adopted a high-performance core with a leaner, modular runtime that supports side-by-side installations since Microsoft wants it to run well in the Cloud of which all cloud providers (inc. Azure) predominantly deploy to Linux VMs, whose trend will continue to dominate. You can view the supported Linux distributions on their installation page which includes Linux binaries for x64, Arm32 + Arm64 including package managers for its supported Linux distributions (Alpine,CentOS,Debian,Fedora,openSUSE,RHEL,SLES,Ubuntu) [1]. As well as maintaining multiple Docker configurations for popular Distros [2]. With Linux now being a supported platform means if you have run into an issue you can report it where their full-time resources will resolve it. The old days of using .NET to push Windows is gone, the future is the cloud and Azure doesn't care if you run Linux or Windows VMs, it's all the same to them, they're still collecting rent for usage of their servers by the hour. [1] https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet/5.0 https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet/5.0 [2] https://hub.docker.com/_/microsoft-dotnet-aspnet https://hub.docker.com/_/microsoft-dotnet-aspnet