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CET, of course :)

tpmx 6y ago
Looks like you're right. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55502781 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55502781 > The UK stopped following EU rules at 23:00 GMT
- xenocratus 6y ago
  It was the same when the transition period started, guess it shows where the balance stood
  - tpmx 6y ago
    Well, I think the UK got a fantastic deal in the end. (I'm Swedish.)
    - spzb 6y ago
      Not as good as we had before. It’s the only trade deal negotiated with the explicitly stated intention of having fewer benefits than before.
      - tpmx 6y ago
        You got access to the EU's internal market without tariffs (except for financial services). The EU key people stated for a very long time - access to the internal EU market cannot be decoupled from the free movement of people. But still, you won that. All because you gave access to french fishers to some fishing waters. I think this bribe to one of the EU partners has been the key impetus for a lot of renewed EU resistance in Sweden. As an example: After reading the terms of the deal, lots of Swedes in r/svenskpolitik ("swedish politics") actually wanted the same exit deal. I kind of agree.
        spzb 6y ago
        Which is less than we had before. Also we now have non tariff barriers including a load more red tape bureaucracy even when sending things from one part of the U.K. to another thanks to the Irish Sea border
        tpmx 6y ago
        You also have less obligations. Whilst still having access to the EU internal market.
        spzb 6y ago
        And fewer benefits. No longer can I travel, work and study freely anywhere in the EU.
        tpmx 6y ago
        > No longer can I travel [...] Yes you can. (Well, at least after covid-19 is over.)
        spzb 6y ago
        Don’t selectively quote. I said travel freely. We will need visas if we spend more than 90 days out of 180 in the EU
        dingaling 6y ago
        > We will need visas if we spend more than 90 days out of 180 in the EU That's been the case since 2014, nothing to do with Brexit. Before Brexit: "From 9 June 2014, all British Overseas Territories citizens (BOTCs), British Overseas citizens (BOCs), British Protected Persons (BPPs), and British Subjects (BS) will be allowed to travel visa free to the EU Schengen Area for a maximum of 90 days." After Brexit: "If you’re a tourist, you do not need a visa for short trips to most EU countries, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland. You’ll be able to stay for up to 90 days in any 180-day period."

CET, of course :)

tpmx 6y ago

Looks like you're right. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55502781 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55502781 > The UK stopped following EU rules at 23:00 GMT

xenocratus 6y ago
It was the same when the transition period started, guess it shows where the balance stood
- tpmx 6y ago
  Well, I think the UK got a fantastic deal in the end. (I'm Swedish.)
  - spzb 6y ago
    Not as good as we had before. It’s the only trade deal negotiated with the explicitly stated intention of having fewer benefits than before.
    - tpmx 6y ago
      You got access to the EU's internal market without tariffs (except for financial services). The EU key people stated for a very long time - access to the internal EU market cannot be decoupled from the free movement of people. But still, you won that. All because you gave access to french fishers to some fishing waters. I think this bribe to one of the EU partners has been the key impetus for a lot of renewed EU resistance in Sweden. As an example: After reading the terms of the deal, lots of Swedes in r/svenskpolitik ("swedish politics") actually wanted the same exit deal. I kind of agree.
      - spzb 6y ago
        Which is less than we had before. Also we now have non tariff barriers including a load more red tape bureaucracy even when sending things from one part of the U.K. to another thanks to the Irish Sea border
        tpmx 6y ago
        You also have less obligations. Whilst still having access to the EU internal market.
        spzb 6y ago
        And fewer benefits. No longer can I travel, work and study freely anywhere in the EU.
        tpmx 6y ago
        > No longer can I travel [...] Yes you can. (Well, at least after covid-19 is over.)
        spzb 6y ago
        Don’t selectively quote. I said travel freely. We will need visas if we spend more than 90 days out of 180 in the EU
        dingaling 6y ago
        > We will need visas if we spend more than 90 days out of 180 in the EU That's been the case since 2014, nothing to do with Brexit. Before Brexit: "From 9 June 2014, all British Overseas Territories citizens (BOTCs), British Overseas citizens (BOCs), British Protected Persons (BPPs), and British Subjects (BS) will be allowed to travel visa free to the EU Schengen Area for a maximum of 90 days." After Brexit: "If you’re a tourist, you do not need a visa for short trips to most EU countries, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland. You’ll be able to stay for up to 90 days in any 180-day period."