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Cool, maybe they'll solve the problem of Teams freezing up constantly someday.

by tenebrisalietum 6y ago

superjan 6y ago
Try disabling gpu rendering.
- oblio 6y ago
  I think that's the generic solution to Electron apps issues :-))
- gerdesj 6y ago
  That works OK, even on Linux (anecdotally)
- codercotton 6y ago
  I will kiss you if this works.
- rufugee 6y ago
  This basically makes Teams so slow it’s unusable...
  - superjan 6y ago
    It might depending on platform. On my windows laptop, I can videoconference without GPU accelleration. Windows 10 has an impressive software fallback for gpu rendering (WARP), they could be using that.
gerdesj 6y ago
That does not happen, even with the beta grade Linux version on Arch (as I run it) You may have a rubbish internet connection. If you are using a VPN with a slow internet connection, investigate a split tunnel. Teams traffic involves only three IP ranges so it is easy to split out and route direct to shave a fair bit of latency. Other issues will require more investigation but they are local to you.
- antman 6y ago
  Same freezing problem, company issued laptop 100mbit internet connection. Same feedback from hundreds of people. Half a gigabyte RAM or more even when Teams inactive. Other softwares have solved this problem so I will agree with the opinion that Teams team should put their act together. I will postpone prioritizing Teams ips to the routers.
- h3cate 6y ago
  you have a lot to learn about computers if you're still dishing out the "it works on my machine so it's not a problem" excuse
  - danw1979 6y ago
    they gave a credible theory to back it up though.
  - sroussey 6y ago
    It’s difficult to fix issues on compromised machines, for example. Or buggy VPN. Etc. Sometimes it really is a specific person’s issue, and sometimes there are a lot of them so it can look like a vendor issue. Of course, sometimes it is a vendor issue. There is a percent range where it is difficult to differentiate. Made worse by a large user base.
  - gerdesj 6y ago
    I'm only 50 and been messing around with them for about 40 years. My point was that even on a precariously supported platform (my Arch Linux computers), the software works fine - ie as proscribed. MS Teams is used by a vast number of people and has a habit of working OK for them.
- Craighead 6y ago
  "Works on my machine" is not a serious person's response to anything
- ReactiveJelly 6y ago
  If the software freezes because of a bad Internet connection, and it can't detect and report the Internet problem, it's still a bug in the software. e.g. "Slack has lost connection... We'll try to reconnect in 30 seconds"
bobobob420 6y ago
Agree if your computer resources are being utilized over 70 percent teams becomes a nightmare. They could have written it in c++ in the same amount of time and had that thing running smoothly.
- beams 6y ago
  Rewriting it in C++ to magically solve problems. Good job, engineer.
  - GekkePrutser 6y ago
    > Rewriting it in C++ to magically solve problems. Good job, engineer. Well it's a lot easier to make an app perform well in C++ than electron. They should at least have for the VS Code team to help. That's one of the best performing Electron apps, it's strange MS never adopted those practices company wide.
    - sroussey 6y ago
      Or they did, and it has more to do with different things happening on the network layer of individual machines.
      - dmix 6y ago
        Sounds like a lot of shit rolling downhill.
      - GekkePrutser 6y ago
        Hmm when I compare the two in terms of CPU / Memory usage and speed, Teams is one of the worst performing electron apps on my system, and VS Code one of the best. I don't think this is just network related (and I have a 600/600 connection anyway). Either way, even if this was the reason it would prove that Electron is not a good fit for an app like this.
  - bobobob420 6y ago
    The issue with teams is performance. Teams is a relatively simple application. C++ is extremely common and well known, would have been a better tool for the job. That’s called engineering when you actually care about the quality of the product.

Cool, maybe they'll solve the problem of Teams freezing up constantly someday.

superjan 6y ago

Try disabling gpu rendering.

oblio 6y ago
I think that's the generic solution to Electron apps issues :-))
gerdesj 6y ago
That works OK, even on Linux (anecdotally)
codercotton 6y ago
I will kiss you if this works.
rufugee 6y ago
This basically makes Teams so slow it’s unusable...
- superjan 6y ago
  It might depending on platform. On my windows laptop, I can videoconference without GPU accelleration. Windows 10 has an impressive software fallback for gpu rendering (WARP), they could be using that.

gerdesj 6y ago

That does not happen, even with the beta grade Linux version on Arch (as I run it) You may have a rubbish internet connection. If you are using a VPN with a slow internet connection, investigate a split tunnel. Teams traffic involves only three IP ranges so it is easy to split out and route direct to shave a fair bit of latency. Other issues will require more investigation but they are local to you.

antman 6y ago
Same freezing problem, company issued laptop 100mbit internet connection. Same feedback from hundreds of people. Half a gigabyte RAM or more even when Teams inactive. Other softwares have solved this problem so I will agree with the opinion that Teams team should put their act together. I will postpone prioritizing Teams ips to the routers.
h3cate 6y ago
you have a lot to learn about computers if you're still dishing out the "it works on my machine so it's not a problem" excuse
- danw1979 6y ago
  they gave a credible theory to back it up though.
- sroussey 6y ago
  It’s difficult to fix issues on compromised machines, for example. Or buggy VPN. Etc. Sometimes it really is a specific person’s issue, and sometimes there are a lot of them so it can look like a vendor issue. Of course, sometimes it is a vendor issue. There is a percent range where it is difficult to differentiate. Made worse by a large user base.
- gerdesj 6y ago
  I'm only 50 and been messing around with them for about 40 years. My point was that even on a precariously supported platform (my Arch Linux computers), the software works fine - ie as proscribed. MS Teams is used by a vast number of people and has a habit of working OK for them.
Craighead 6y ago
"Works on my machine" is not a serious person's response to anything
ReactiveJelly 6y ago
If the software freezes because of a bad Internet connection, and it can't detect and report the Internet problem, it's still a bug in the software. e.g. "Slack has lost connection... We'll try to reconnect in 30 seconds"

bobobob420 6y ago

Agree if your computer resources are being utilized over 70 percent teams becomes a nightmare. They could have written it in c++ in the same amount of time and had that thing running smoothly.

beams 6y ago
Rewriting it in C++ to magically solve problems. Good job, engineer.
- GekkePrutser 6y ago
  > Rewriting it in C++ to magically solve problems. Good job, engineer. Well it's a lot easier to make an app perform well in C++ than electron. They should at least have for the VS Code team to help. That's one of the best performing Electron apps, it's strange MS never adopted those practices company wide.
  - sroussey 6y ago
    Or they did, and it has more to do with different things happening on the network layer of individual machines.
    - dmix 6y ago
      Sounds like a lot of shit rolling downhill.
    - GekkePrutser 6y ago
      Hmm when I compare the two in terms of CPU / Memory usage and speed, Teams is one of the worst performing electron apps on my system, and VS Code one of the best. I don't think this is just network related (and I have a 600/600 connection anyway). Either way, even if this was the reason it would prove that Electron is not a good fit for an app like this.
- bobobob420 6y ago
  The issue with teams is performance. Teams is a relatively simple application. C++ is extremely common and well known, would have been a better tool for the job. That’s called engineering when you actually care about the quality of the product.