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Minnesota lawmakers say coronavirus deaths could be inflated by 40% after reviewing death certificates https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/coronavirus-deat

Minnesota lawmakers say coronavirus deaths could be inflated by 40% after reviewing death certificates https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/coronavirus-death-certificates-minnesota-inflated https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/coronavirus-death-ce... The Grand County coroner is calling attention to the way the state health department is classifying some deaths. The coroner, Brenda Bock, says two of their five deaths related to COVID-19 were people who died of gunshot wounds. https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/12/15/grand-county-covid-deaths/ https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/12/15/grand-county-covid-de... I could post more but take a look at these.

jpster 6y ago
Meanwhile, this reporting suggests that the Covid death figure is actually underreported: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronav...
- Felony_Fred 6y ago
  Meanwhile, multiple sources suggest that they are vastly inflated ; " ... That, of course, can mean anything from having had a recent positive COVID-19 test (which may or may not have been accurate) to having tested positive months earlier to simply having been declared positive based on symptoms (with hospitals facing strong financial incentives to claim COVID-19 deaths). For the sake of argument, however, let us assume that the CDC’s numbers are valid. Out of those 164,280 deaths, the CDC calculates that just six percent of them, or 9,857, were caused solely by COVID-19. “For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death,” the agency says. In other words, 94 percent of those who died with COVID-19 already had two or more other serious health issues such as hypertension or diabetes." [0] [0] ; https://thenewamerican.com/cdc-fewer-than-10-000-americans-have-died-from-covid-19-alone/ https://thenewamerican.com/cdc-fewer-than-10-000-americans-h...
  - r00fus 6y ago
    Yes, death by pneumonia caused by COVID means it’s not “solely COVID”. This line of reasoning is specious at best, disinformation at worst.
  - rualca 6y ago
    > (...) simply having been declared positive based on symptoms Also known as a positive diagnosis.
Bodell 6y ago
Are you claiming that we may find out soon that 136,000 people (40% of total Covid deaths) are not actually dead? Maybe hiding? Maybe all died of gunshot wounds? Have gun deaths spiked by 350% this year? Has any other major cause of death spiked by an exorbitant amount in 2020? If so we should really be looking into this.

jpster 6y ago

Meanwhile, this reporting suggests that the Covid death figure is actually underreported: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronav...

Felony_Fred 6y ago
Meanwhile, multiple sources suggest that they are vastly inflated ; " ... That, of course, can mean anything from having had a recent positive COVID-19 test (which may or may not have been accurate) to having tested positive months earlier to simply having been declared positive based on symptoms (with hospitals facing strong financial incentives to claim COVID-19 deaths). For the sake of argument, however, let us assume that the CDC’s numbers are valid. Out of those 164,280 deaths, the CDC calculates that just six percent of them, or 9,857, were caused solely by COVID-19. “For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death,” the agency says. In other words, 94 percent of those who died with COVID-19 already had two or more other serious health issues such as hypertension or diabetes." [0] [0] ; https://thenewamerican.com/cdc-fewer-than-10-000-americans-have-died-from-covid-19-alone/ https://thenewamerican.com/cdc-fewer-than-10-000-americans-h...
- r00fus 6y ago
  Yes, death by pneumonia caused by COVID means it’s not “solely COVID”. This line of reasoning is specious at best, disinformation at worst.
- rualca 6y ago
  > (...) simply having been declared positive based on symptoms Also known as a positive diagnosis.

Bodell 6y ago

Are you claiming that we may find out soon that 136,000 people (40% of total Covid deaths) are not actually dead? Maybe hiding? Maybe all died of gunshot wounds? Have gun deaths spiked by 350% this year? Has any other major cause of death spiked by an exorbitant amount in 2020? If so we should really be looking into this.