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> absolutely not true Only the Sith deal in absolutes. > I feel obstructive amounts of shame, but I fought that and asked for a lower rent on my lease, and I
by kempbellt 6y ago
> absolutely not true
Only the Sith deal in absolutes.
> I feel obstructive amounts of shame, but I fought that and asked for a lower rent on my lease, and I got it.
Genuinely: congrats. Self-advocation is extremely rewarding, and something that I personally love to see in others.
> But I am not going to cut in line at the grocery store even though, according to you, my feeling shame in that case is just stopping me from doing what I want.
If someone has a genuine need to cut in line and demonstrates that to the people they are cutting in line, I don't see any issue here. I would take no issue being cut in line, in this situation and just think, "They've got somewhere important to be". But still, if they did it dickishly, I wouldn't shame them. I might confront them, or just...cut back. But for me to shame them, is such a drain of my energy... And whether they feel shame for an action on their own, is beyond what I care to spend my time thinking about. I'm not their mom.
- papito 6y agoWe are not even talking about shaming people. This is not the discussion at ALL. We are discussing people's inability to feel shame.
- kempbellt 6y agoYour shameless self-advocation for your opinion here, and use of caps to YELL your point makes it seem like you disagree with...yourself? "We" call this cognitive dissonance. Arguing that shame is good, while demonstrating the opposite. Why would a person feel shame if they are not otherwise being shamed by people? Your first comment was directly discussing the president's lack of feeling ashamed for behavior which you implicitly decided he should feel ashamed for... You literally shamed him in your comment, so yes...this conversation is very much about shaming people.