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”Europe and UK” Who will inform them they only left the EU, and they can’t actually ever leave Europe?

ben_w 6y ago
In the same way Canada and Mexico are technically both part of America despite not being part of the USA, this is a reasonably well understood linguistic shortcut.
bennyelv 6y ago
The term "Europe" is often used synonymously with "European Union" here, and that's what it means in this context.
matthewmacleod 6y ago
Given that the UK's regulatory relationship with the rest of Europe fundamentally changes in a little over eight hours, it's hardly unreasonable for a UK news source to be extremely explicit about this, given the common shorthand of using the term "Europe" to refer to a mishmash of the EU/EEA/EFTA.
rad_gruchalski 6y ago
Published by bbc. Isn’t it ironic...
chrisseaton 6y ago
Were you genuinely confused by the title, or are you just pretending to be and actually you understood it just fine? The article is from the UK, where 'Europe' colloquially means the rest of the continent distinct from the UK. Actually so does just 'continent' and 'continental' on its own. This isn't an ignorance thing, or a Brexit thing, it's been this way as long as I've been around, long before anyone was seriously suggesting we leave.
- globular-toast 6y ago
  It's been around before anyone was suggesting to join too...
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- SahAssar 6y ago
  I was actually confused if it also applied to non-EU European countries. I find equivocating EU and Europe when talking about laws pretty weird since there are many non-EU countries in Europe with very different laws and treaties.
- C19is20 6y ago
  "Continental Europe", is a thing.
- alkonaut 6y ago
  Absolutely not confused, it was a remark on the stupidity of using “Europe” to mean “EU” in Britain. It’s a phenomenon I partially blame for Brexit.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    > the stupidity of using “Europe” to mean “EU” in Britain It's just a contraction. People on both sides of the debate or with no opinion use it. I think you're making it out to be a bigger deal or something nefarious when it's just a short-hand of speech. Nobody is confused by what the author means, except people pretending to be so.
    - alkonaut 6y ago
      I don’t think anyone is confused either. But language matters and my suspicion is that referring to “Europe” as something else (meaning continental Europe, the rest of Europe etc) for decades has contributed to the feeling among britons of not actually being fundamentally European in the same way e.g the French or Swedish do. You wouldn’t hear anyone else in the EU “go to Europe” or conflate the EU or Europe. And we make a point of not doing it.
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pjmlp 6y ago
In UK, Europe is always used in colloquial speech to mean mainland Europe.
pjc50 6y ago
More to the point, the UK can't really diverge from EU market rules while selling into Europe.
LatteLazy 6y ago
There is no way the brexit crew will accept that fact. They think the island is moving west as we speak and will soon be over the continental divide...

In the same way Canada and Mexico are technically both part of America despite not being part of the USA, this is a reasonably well understood linguistic shortcut.

bennyelv 6y ago

The term "Europe" is often used synonymously with "European Union" here, and that's what it means in this context.

matthewmacleod 6y ago

Given that the UK's regulatory relationship with the rest of Europe fundamentally changes in a little over eight hours, it's hardly unreasonable for a UK news source to be extremely explicit about this, given the common shorthand of using the term "Europe" to refer to a mishmash of the EU/EEA/EFTA.

rad_gruchalski 6y ago

Published by bbc. Isn’t it ironic...

chrisseaton 6y ago

Were you genuinely confused by the title, or are you just pretending to be and actually you understood it just fine? The article is from the UK, where 'Europe' colloquially means the rest of the continent distinct from the UK. Actually so does just 'continent' and 'continental' on its own. This isn't an ignorance thing, or a Brexit thing, it's been this way as long as I've been around, long before anyone was seriously suggesting we leave.

globular-toast 6y ago
It's been around before anyone was suggesting to join too...
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SahAssar 6y ago
I was actually confused if it also applied to non-EU European countries. I find equivocating EU and Europe when talking about laws pretty weird since there are many non-EU countries in Europe with very different laws and treaties.
C19is20 6y ago
"Continental Europe", is a thing.
alkonaut 6y ago
Absolutely not confused, it was a remark on the stupidity of using “Europe” to mean “EU” in Britain. It’s a phenomenon I partially blame for Brexit.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > the stupidity of using “Europe” to mean “EU” in Britain It's just a contraction. People on both sides of the debate or with no opinion use it. I think you're making it out to be a bigger deal or something nefarious when it's just a short-hand of speech. Nobody is confused by what the author means, except people pretending to be so.
  - alkonaut 6y ago
    I don’t think anyone is confused either. But language matters and my suspicion is that referring to “Europe” as something else (meaning continental Europe, the rest of Europe etc) for decades has contributed to the feeling among britons of not actually being fundamentally European in the same way e.g the French or Swedish do. You wouldn’t hear anyone else in the EU “go to Europe” or conflate the EU or Europe. And we make a point of not doing it.
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pjmlp 6y ago

In UK, Europe is always used in colloquial speech to mean mainland Europe.

pjc50 6y ago

More to the point, the UK can't really diverge from EU market rules while selling into Europe.

LatteLazy 6y ago

There is no way the brexit crew will accept that fact. They think the island is moving west as we speak and will soon be over the continental divide...