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I assume the rules would fix this so any medium and large drones will have to be registered like cars.

bluescrn 6y ago
And as with cars, the real criminals will probably steal one for their nefarious uses, rather than buy and register their own. Or build one from parts that are now widely available. You won't stop criminals using drones by forcing hobbyists to register even their ~30g 'Tiny Whoop' drones. Not sure it'll even have much impact on careless/reckless flying, as the people doing that are the sort of people who probably won't even read the rules before playing with their shiny new toy right next to an airport on a windy day...
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > You won't stop criminals using drones by forcing hobbyists to register No, if criminals are going to steal drones because of registration requirements, what that does is add another crime, that will often be detected earlier than the major crime they intend to commit and which adds to the probability that there will be sufficient evidence to convict them of at least one crime.
- simion314 6y ago
  License number on cars are not only for criminals and terrorists. There are also used to identify who hit your parked car, who hit a person and run , who is driving dangerously.
ehnto 6y ago
I figure if the operator is doing something illegal, they might also risk not running an ID. I also wonder how the IDs will work, are they just written on the drone or do they need to have transponders like aircraft? I feel like transponders are the only way they could effectively enforce the rules.
- zimpenfish 6y ago
  > I also wonder how the IDs will work, are they just written on the drone Sounds like written, sticker, embossed, etc. is all you need. "You must display your operator ID on your drones and model aircraft. "
- simion314 6y ago
  >I figure if the operator is doing something illegal, they might also risk not running an ID. I am thinking more at idiots or negligent people not criminals or terrorists. If you cause some damages with your toy drone you will have no choice but to admit and pay for them and hopefully you get less idiots risking other people health with their toy hobby or commercial stuff.
- kube-system 6y ago
  > I also wonder how the IDs will work Probably the same way the US requires them to be numbered: https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/register_drone/media/UAS_how_to_label_Infographic.pdf https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/register_drone/media...
xwdv 6y ago
If you are conducting illegal flights you will not register a drone, in fact you would probably consider the drone disposable.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Just like with stolen cars, sometimes something is left behind that traces back to the last user.
  - kube-system 6y ago
    You might be surprised how many vehicle accidents are never solved when the driver flees.
    - simion314 6y ago
      Yeah, but when you have a witness or a camera you get something more then a color. The scenario I see happening with drones is people crashing them by mistake on innocents heads or property causing damages, since the drone crashed police can read it's serial number and see who the owner is.
      - kube-system 6y ago
        People who follow the rules and make a mistake are the most likely to be caught. They're probably also the least likely to cause trouble or run from the consequences of their actions. > since the drone crashed police can read it's serial number and see who the owner is. Not from the serial number -- but from the pilot's operator ID they received at registration, and then affixed to the side of their drone. Those who are apathetic to the rules, or actively flout them may simply take their drone out of the box and fly it.
        simion314 6y ago
        >People who follow the rules and make a mistake are the most likely to be caught. They're probably also the least likely to cause trouble or run from the consequences of their actions. Do you refer to drones only or in general? If in general you think car license plates are useless? > They're probably also the least likely to cause trouble or run from the consequences of their actions Any data or is an opinion? Btw most car related accidents are happening when people do not follow the rules like respecting the speed limit, or not using a phone so why would they follow the "accept the consequences of your actions" rule if they could get away?

And as with cars, the real criminals will probably steal one for their nefarious uses, rather than buy and register their own. Or build one from parts that are now widely available. You won't stop criminals using drones by forcing hobbyists to register even their ~30g 'Tiny Whoop' drones. Not sure it'll even have much impact on careless/reckless flying, as the people doing that are the sort of people who probably won't even read the rules before playing with their shiny new toy right next to an airport on a windy day...

dragonwriter 6y ago
> You won't stop criminals using drones by forcing hobbyists to register No, if criminals are going to steal drones because of registration requirements, what that does is add another crime, that will often be detected earlier than the major crime they intend to commit and which adds to the probability that there will be sufficient evidence to convict them of at least one crime.
simion314 6y ago
License number on cars are not only for criminals and terrorists. There are also used to identify who hit your parked car, who hit a person and run , who is driving dangerously.

ehnto 6y ago

I figure if the operator is doing something illegal, they might also risk not running an ID. I also wonder how the IDs will work, are they just written on the drone or do they need to have transponders like aircraft? I feel like transponders are the only way they could effectively enforce the rules.

zimpenfish 6y ago
> I also wonder how the IDs will work, are they just written on the drone Sounds like written, sticker, embossed, etc. is all you need. "You must display your operator ID on your drones and model aircraft. "
simion314 6y ago
>I figure if the operator is doing something illegal, they might also risk not running an ID. I am thinking more at idiots or negligent people not criminals or terrorists. If you cause some damages with your toy drone you will have no choice but to admit and pay for them and hopefully you get less idiots risking other people health with their toy hobby or commercial stuff.
kube-system 6y ago
> I also wonder how the IDs will work Probably the same way the US requires them to be numbered: https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/register_drone/media/UAS_how_to_label_Infographic.pdf https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/register_drone/media...

xwdv 6y ago

If you are conducting illegal flights you will not register a drone, in fact you would probably consider the drone disposable.

pjmlp 6y ago
Just like with stolen cars, sometimes something is left behind that traces back to the last user.
- kube-system 6y ago
  You might be surprised how many vehicle accidents are never solved when the driver flees.
  - simion314 6y ago
    Yeah, but when you have a witness or a camera you get something more then a color. The scenario I see happening with drones is people crashing them by mistake on innocents heads or property causing damages, since the drone crashed police can read it's serial number and see who the owner is.
    - kube-system 6y ago
      People who follow the rules and make a mistake are the most likely to be caught. They're probably also the least likely to cause trouble or run from the consequences of their actions. > since the drone crashed police can read it's serial number and see who the owner is. Not from the serial number -- but from the pilot's operator ID they received at registration, and then affixed to the side of their drone. Those who are apathetic to the rules, or actively flout them may simply take their drone out of the box and fly it.
      - simion314 6y ago
        >People who follow the rules and make a mistake are the most likely to be caught. They're probably also the least likely to cause trouble or run from the consequences of their actions. Do you refer to drones only or in general? If in general you think car license plates are useless? > They're probably also the least likely to cause trouble or run from the consequences of their actions Any data or is an opinion? Btw most car related accidents are happening when people do not follow the rules like respecting the speed limit, or not using a phone so why would they follow the "accept the consequences of your actions" rule if they could get away?