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Surprising he mentions Paris Hilton but not Trump who did exactly that. The interesing question is why ? The answer is hypocrisy. When you have too much of "ho

by mam2 6y ago

Surprising he mentions Paris Hilton but not Trump who did exactly that. The interesing question is why ? The answer is hypocrisy. When you have too much of "how you should behave" It doesn't connect with laypeople enough and so it blows up and laypeople like it so it becomes popular..

oarsinsync 6y ago
> Without getting into tiresome politics, the “shameless” strategy also defined the 2016 U.S. presidential elections. Presumably he’s aware naming the person by name will inflame the audience and derail the conversation in a way that Paris will not.
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nailer 6y ago
It's everyone. Yes that includes Trump, but also Kamala Harris who accused Biden of sexual harassment and then joined him as a running mate and the various people that engaged in the Russiagate conspiracy. There's no penalty to being wrong or being shown to be a hypocrite. The lie gets 40K retweets, the correction 300.
- papito 6y ago
  The Bullshit Asymmetry Principle: "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."
- kskqkqk912 6y ago
  The part about Kamala Harris is factually incorrect. Please provide a source where she or one of her surrogates is quoted leveling this type of accusing at Biden.
  - Veen 6y ago
    She said, in reference to the women who alleged Biden sexually assaulted them: > “I believe them, and I respect them being able to tell their story and having the courage to do it.” https://www.independent.co.uk/us-election-2020/kamala-harris-police-joe-biden-sexual-assault-law-and-order-2020-election-a9666131.html https://www.independent.co.uk/us-election-2020/kamala-harris...
- pjc50 6y ago
  The Harris business is extremely disappointing, but Russiagate-related charges to Trump associates were proven in criminal court and people went to jail for them. The only thing that wasn't proven was a direct link to Trump himself.
  - nailer 6y ago
    No. Nobody in the Trump administration went to jail for colluding with Russia. > The Special Counsel's report, made public in April 2019, examined numerous contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials but concluded that, though the Trump campaign welcomed the Russian activities and expected to benefit from them, there was insufficient evidence to bring any conspiracy or coordination charges against Trump or his associates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20...
    - pjc50 6y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort > On October 27, 2017, Manafort and his business associate Rick Gates were indicted in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on multiple charges arising from his consulting work for the pro-Russian government of Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine before Yanukovych's overthrow in 2014.[18] The indictment came at the request of Robert Mueller's Special Counsel investigation.[19][20] In June 2018, additional charges were filed against Manafort for obstruction of justice and witness tampering that are alleged to have occurred while he was under house arrest,[21] and he was ordered to jail. > bring any conspiracy or coordination charges against Trump or his associates That is not what I said. Strictly there are no "conspiracy" charges. Manafort was charged on his own. However, he is a Trump associate, and he was charged as a result of the Muller investigation.
      - nailer 6y ago
        Yes but not for colliding with Russia, which is a fairly important part of a conspiracy about Trump colluding with Russia to steal the election.
gostsamo 6y ago
The website is nadia something dot com. There is a high chance that the author is a "she".
- mam2 6y ago
  How does it matter ?
  - gostsamo 6y ago
    Basic manners, I'd say.
Veen 6y ago
First, she's a she. Second, Trump is allued to, if not mentioned directly: > Without getting into tiresome politics, the “shameless” strategy also defined the 2016 U.S. presidential elections. It was shouted down by people in both established political parties, because they were used to playing by the “obvious” rules, but I suspect that in a decade’s time, we’ll look back on that election and realize that it marked the beginning of an entirely new style of politics.

by mam2 6y ago

oarsinsync 6y ago

> Without getting into tiresome politics, the “shameless” strategy also defined the 2016 U.S. presidential elections. Presumably he’s aware naming the person by name will inflame the audience and derail the conversation in a way that Paris will not.

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nailer 6y ago

It's everyone. Yes that includes Trump, but also Kamala Harris who accused Biden of sexual harassment and then joined him as a running mate and the various people that engaged in the Russiagate conspiracy. There's no penalty to being wrong or being shown to be a hypocrite. The lie gets 40K retweets, the correction 300.

papito 6y ago
The Bullshit Asymmetry Principle: "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."
kskqkqk912 6y ago
The part about Kamala Harris is factually incorrect. Please provide a source where she or one of her surrogates is quoted leveling this type of accusing at Biden.
- Veen 6y ago
  She said, in reference to the women who alleged Biden sexually assaulted them: > “I believe them, and I respect them being able to tell their story and having the courage to do it.” https://www.independent.co.uk/us-election-2020/kamala-harris-police-joe-biden-sexual-assault-law-and-order-2020-election-a9666131.html https://www.independent.co.uk/us-election-2020/kamala-harris...
pjc50 6y ago
The Harris business is extremely disappointing, but Russiagate-related charges to Trump associates were proven in criminal court and people went to jail for them. The only thing that wasn't proven was a direct link to Trump himself.
- nailer 6y ago
  No. Nobody in the Trump administration went to jail for colluding with Russia. > The Special Counsel's report, made public in April 2019, examined numerous contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials but concluded that, though the Trump campaign welcomed the Russian activities and expected to benefit from them, there was insufficient evidence to bring any conspiracy or coordination charges against Trump or his associates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20...
  - pjc50 6y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort > On October 27, 2017, Manafort and his business associate Rick Gates were indicted in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on multiple charges arising from his consulting work for the pro-Russian government of Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine before Yanukovych's overthrow in 2014.[18] The indictment came at the request of Robert Mueller's Special Counsel investigation.[19][20] In June 2018, additional charges were filed against Manafort for obstruction of justice and witness tampering that are alleged to have occurred while he was under house arrest,[21] and he was ordered to jail. > bring any conspiracy or coordination charges against Trump or his associates That is not what I said. Strictly there are no "conspiracy" charges. Manafort was charged on his own. However, he is a Trump associate, and he was charged as a result of the Muller investigation.
    - nailer 6y ago
      Yes but not for colliding with Russia, which is a fairly important part of a conspiracy about Trump colluding with Russia to steal the election.

gostsamo 6y ago

The website is nadia something dot com. There is a high chance that the author is a "she".

mam2 6y ago
How does it matter ?
- gostsamo 6y ago
  Basic manners, I'd say.

Veen 6y ago

First, she's a she. Second, Trump is allued to, if not mentioned directly: > Without getting into tiresome politics, the “shameless” strategy also defined the 2016 U.S. presidential elections. It was shouted down by people in both established political parties, because they were used to playing by the “obvious” rules, but I suspect that in a decade’s time, we’ll look back on that election and realize that it marked the beginning of an entirely new style of politics.