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? A lengthy lockdown will obviously reduce the virus dramatically. Who is doubting that? "If the 'general rules' both administrative and social were enforced
by jariel 6y ago
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A lengthy lockdown will obviously reduce the virus dramatically. Who is doubting that?
"If the 'general rules' both administrative and social were enforced in the West, we'd probably have a revolution."
Everywhere there was 'peak COVID' had lockdowns - but if the lockdown were as severe and controlled as Wuhan, or as consistentely interventional as Taiwan or Hong Kong, there would be revolts.
Much of that they did would be probably anti-constitutional and definitely challenged in courts by those who disagree.
If the police or medical authorities were going through facebook accounts for contract-tracing, there'd be a revolt, certainly in America, probably in Australia. The 'public health' issue is secondary, there are just enough people who'd consider that to be 'anti Constitutional' that it'd be a serious problem.
Politicians everywhere are testing the limits of what they can get away with, this is not a joke.
There are protests all over the Western world not being covered by the press because everyone is afraid the populism could get out of hand.
Case and point: Christmas. If this were any other time of year, the lockdown would have come sooner, but politicans were far too afraid, so in most places, they waited until just after. The UK had no choice to go before XMass.
- onethought 6y agoIn Australia: - The lockdown in Melbourne was not dissimilar to China’s Wuhan lockdown. - Police and Medical Authorities did go through facebook (publicly, not any kind of hacking) for contact tracing and policing of people breaking health orders. - It was not anti-constitutional (because Australia has a different constitution) and Australia has specific laws that allow (in emergencies like pandemics) the Chief Health Officers to override existing laws. - There were no revolts, in fact there is continued wide spread support for the state government in Victoria, and the federal government in Australia for their response.
- friendlybus 6y agoThere was one guy who revolted with some unrelated conspiracy stuff and got arrested in his house. A pregnant woman tried to start a party with friends that was flagrantly against the measures and was arrested. Law and order problems still exist even in a lockdown and I think in Feb we'll see people push back against the oppressive atmosphere.
- nl 6y agoDid you read the link I posted? The Melbourne lockdown was as tight as anything in China and yes they did compulsory contact tracing including social media investigations. We also have a phone app for contact tracing. The biggest issue with that is that it doesn't work, not privacy concerns. Protests against it were widely covered here in Australia. There was little popular support for them, and the Premier of the state (think US Governer) is seeing his highest polling support ever. Sure, I agree in the US there are groups that have been much more effective in exploiting fears of government than elsewhere. But the US is a pretty unique situation.