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What job pays minimum wage and teaches a skill and isn't exempt via an education exemption?

by alisonkisk 6y ago

dantheman 6y ago
There are skills that all jobs teach - showing up to work on time, being reliable, etc.
- watwut 6y ago
  If the school did not taught you that, why would the job do?
  - TeMPOraL 6y ago
    Because sooner or later everyone realizes that - with the exception of people aiming for education grants or university eduction - school is an artificial, self-contained environment and things that happen there have little consequence. When you stop caring whether you get C or E on anything, the school loses its power to teach you punctuality and reliability.
    - oblio 6y ago
      Well, normally the forcing function for school, if school itself doesn't work, is parents. But if your family sucks... School won't save you :-(
      - TeMPOraL 6y ago
        Indeed. And unfortunately, quite a lot of families are dysfunctional, for various complicated reasons. When parents offload parenting to schools, while schools expect kids to be parented at home... kids parent themselves.
    - watwut 6y ago
      Punctuality does not really make difference between C and E. In my experience, people who were not at time in school, were not at time in their jobs. And either they found a job where it did not matter or were in constant trouble because of it or got fired. Generally, they did not acquired puntuality nor precision. The lack of either was result of general attitude toward everything around and it did not magically changed after school.
  - DeonPenny 6y ago
    Cause school does incentive some people because there no short term benefits especially if you make Cs and just dont have the skills to become a white collar worker. This goes especially for disagreeable young people.
missedthecue 6y ago
A very obvious example is the restaurant industry. 90% of managers started out in an entry level position. 80% of owners started out in an entry level position. Pricing people out of the labor market doesn't help them. https://restaurant.org/research/restaurant-statistics/restaurant-industry-facts-at-a-glance https://restaurant.org/research/restaurant-statistics/restau...
DeonPenny 6y ago
Like being prompt, being professional, taking responsibility, talking to customers, etc. The things you learn at you first job running papers or owning a lemonade stands. Will you learn to trade stocks, no. But those things are valuable.

What job pays minimum wage and teaches a skill and isn't exempt via an education exemption?

dantheman 6y ago

There are skills that all jobs teach - showing up to work on time, being reliable, etc.

watwut 6y ago
If the school did not taught you that, why would the job do?
- TeMPOraL 6y ago
  Because sooner or later everyone realizes that - with the exception of people aiming for education grants or university eduction - school is an artificial, self-contained environment and things that happen there have little consequence. When you stop caring whether you get C or E on anything, the school loses its power to teach you punctuality and reliability.
  - oblio 6y ago
    Well, normally the forcing function for school, if school itself doesn't work, is parents. But if your family sucks... School won't save you :-(
    - TeMPOraL 6y ago
      Indeed. And unfortunately, quite a lot of families are dysfunctional, for various complicated reasons. When parents offload parenting to schools, while schools expect kids to be parented at home... kids parent themselves.
  - watwut 6y ago
    Punctuality does not really make difference between C and E. In my experience, people who were not at time in school, were not at time in their jobs. And either they found a job where it did not matter or were in constant trouble because of it or got fired. Generally, they did not acquired puntuality nor precision. The lack of either was result of general attitude toward everything around and it did not magically changed after school.
- DeonPenny 6y ago
  Cause school does incentive some people because there no short term benefits especially if you make Cs and just dont have the skills to become a white collar worker. This goes especially for disagreeable young people.

missedthecue 6y ago

A very obvious example is the restaurant industry. 90% of managers started out in an entry level position. 80% of owners started out in an entry level position. Pricing people out of the labor market doesn't help them. https://restaurant.org/research/restaurant-statistics/restaurant-industry-facts-at-a-glance https://restaurant.org/research/restaurant-statistics/restau...

DeonPenny 6y ago

Like being prompt, being professional, taking responsibility, talking to customers, etc. The things you learn at you first job running papers or owning a lemonade stands. Will you learn to trade stocks, no. But those things are valuable.