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What would it look like, if you were over-reacting? What facts would come to light that'd make you say, "Oops, my bad!"? Alternatively, if this is allowed to

What would it look like, if you were over-reacting? What facts would come to light that'd make you say, "Oops, my bad!"? Alternatively, if this is allowed to pass, what material differences will come into existence as a result? What predictions will you make about the lasting consequences of this specific action?

EvanAnderson 6y ago
What would it look like, if you were over-reacting? What facts would come to light that'd make you say, "Oops, my bad!"? It's difficult for me to conceive of my reaction as an overreaction. I would like to explore that dialogue, but I can't get myself into a place to work from. I just can't do it. Alternatively, if this is allowed to pass, what material differences will come into existence as a result? What predictions will you make about the lasting consequences of this specific action? People won't know what general purpose computers are. They'll accept silly ideas like "Well, my computer just can't do that thing anymore." The full value that computers can bring to individuals and to society won't be realized. General purpose computers are a unique invention in human history. I hold the value they bring to humanity in high esteem. I think their ability to affect positive change on the human condition is difficult to understate. I perceive a systematic effort, and a manifest effect brought on by the marketplace, to eliminate access to general purpose computing for individuals and to replace computers with vaguely computer-shaped appliances. We're racing headlong into a "The Right to Read" scenario. Feeling that it's normal to accept somebody altering your computer because you agreed to a vaguely-worded license agreement stilted heavily in the favor of the software developer isn't alright. The more people think that's alright the worse things are for everybody.
- TameAntelope 6y ago
  > It's difficult for me to conceive of my reaction as an overreaction Sorry, but if you can't even conceive that you're wrong, you're not equipped to argue about it.
  - EvanAnderson 6y ago
    You're not "Sorry", though. You're just dismissing me. Not being able to conceive that I'm not overreacting doesn't mean that I can't conceive that I'm wrong. It means that I can't conceive that I'm overreacting. I had a hard time responding to your first inquiry. I responded to your "Alternatively..." inquiry as an alternative. Instead of addressing what I could respond to you just dismiss me. That disappoints me.
    - TameAntelope 6y ago
      I'm sorry I have to dismiss you, as you're not willing to entertain the possibility I'm right. You might have been right and I'm missing something, but now we won't know.
      - EvanAnderson 6y ago
        I need to stop replying, but you've gotten under my skin. I'm not good at walking away from things (particularly Internet bickering). I'm sorry I have to dismiss you, as you're not willing to entertain the possibility I'm right. Which is not what I said. I suppose I should have just dismissed you when I asked questions that you didn't "satisfactorily" respond to.
        TameAntelope 6y ago
        The discomfort you're experiencing is not caused by me, it's caused by the fact that you're aware of your own unreasonableness here. What you do with that discomfort is up to you.

EvanAnderson 6y ago

What would it look like, if you were over-reacting? What facts would come to light that'd make you say, "Oops, my bad!"? It's difficult for me to conceive of my reaction as an overreaction. I would like to explore that dialogue, but I can't get myself into a place to work from. I just can't do it. Alternatively, if this is allowed to pass, what material differences will come into existence as a result? What predictions will you make about the lasting consequences of this specific action? People won't know what general purpose computers are. They'll accept silly ideas like "Well, my computer just can't do that thing anymore." The full value that computers can bring to individuals and to society won't be realized. General purpose computers are a unique invention in human history. I hold the value they bring to humanity in high esteem. I think their ability to affect positive change on the human condition is difficult to understate. I perceive a systematic effort, and a manifest effect brought on by the marketplace, to eliminate access to general purpose computing for individuals and to replace computers with vaguely computer-shaped appliances. We're racing headlong into a "The Right to Read" scenario. Feeling that it's normal to accept somebody altering your computer because you agreed to a vaguely-worded license agreement stilted heavily in the favor of the software developer isn't alright. The more people think that's alright the worse things are for everybody.

TameAntelope 6y ago
> It's difficult for me to conceive of my reaction as an overreaction Sorry, but if you can't even conceive that you're wrong, you're not equipped to argue about it.
- EvanAnderson 6y ago
  You're not "Sorry", though. You're just dismissing me. Not being able to conceive that I'm not overreacting doesn't mean that I can't conceive that I'm wrong. It means that I can't conceive that I'm overreacting. I had a hard time responding to your first inquiry. I responded to your "Alternatively..." inquiry as an alternative. Instead of addressing what I could respond to you just dismiss me. That disappoints me.
  - TameAntelope 6y ago
    I'm sorry I have to dismiss you, as you're not willing to entertain the possibility I'm right. You might have been right and I'm missing something, but now we won't know.
    - EvanAnderson 6y ago
      I need to stop replying, but you've gotten under my skin. I'm not good at walking away from things (particularly Internet bickering). I'm sorry I have to dismiss you, as you're not willing to entertain the possibility I'm right. Which is not what I said. I suppose I should have just dismissed you when I asked questions that you didn't "satisfactorily" respond to.
      - TameAntelope 6y ago
        The discomfort you're experiencing is not caused by me, it's caused by the fact that you're aware of your own unreasonableness here. What you do with that discomfort is up to you.