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I'm way more proficient as a programmer, than an Excel user, so it was my assumption that all these marketing guys that constantly work with Excel can do wonder
by krick 6y ago
I'm way more proficient as a programmer, than an Excel user, so it was my assumption that all these marketing guys that constantly work with Excel can do wonders with it. I mean, they probably can, but recently I tried to use it (actually, it was LibreOffice Calc, so there might be my problem, but I don't know if the difference really is this big) instead of writing a python or bash script (as I would usually do) and was unpleasantly surprised by how complicated the stuff that I would consider standard is, like concatenating columns, grouping/counting unique values, dirty data semi-automated cleanup and such. Everything would require either multiple clicks in multiple menus to perform something that appears to be very ill-composable actions in Calc, or would require writing 50-line Basic script (on kinda ugly APIs) for something that I can do by simply converting all of that to csv and writing 5 lines of Python (or sometimes even shell text-utils, literally). My general impression was that it is not really a tool made with power-user efficiency in mind, ending up being not very efficient for anyone, since it isn't very intuitive software to use for an excel-noob anyway.
So my question is, is this really the state of art for visual working with data-sheets, semi-manual data editing and such?
I was assuming that running a Jupyter/Pluto/RStudio and doing stuff in Python/Julia/R when you don't indent to do actual data-analysis/learning, but only something that seems like basic stuff/preprocessing is more of a bad habit, because Excel was actually made to work with tabular (DataFrame-like) structures, but I ended up feeling like there's no way I would actually prefer Excel for that.
- RMPR 6y ago> Python/Julia/R when you don't indent This typo made me chuckle > So my question is, is this really the state of art for visual working with data-sheets, semi-manual data editing and such? I guess Excel is used because it's well established, and migrating will be very costly not to mention finding people in that field knowing Python/Julia/R