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Atrazine causing feminization in frogs is an undisputed fact, but the statement as given ("they put chemicals in the water TO turn frogs gay") is absolutely not

Atrazine causing feminization in frogs is an undisputed fact, but the statement as given ("they put chemicals in the water TO turn frogs gay") is absolutely not. Atrazine is used because it's a cheap and effective herbicide, frog feminization is a side effect which doesn't factor into decisions about its use.

ikeboy 6y ago
Ah yes, technically the chemicals are being put in the water and are turning the frogs gay but you see, they only intended to put the chemicals in the water and didn't specifically intend to turn the frogs gay.
- katmannthree 6y ago
  Atrazine isn't intentionally put into water, it ending up in water reservoirs is a second order effect of its primary use as an herbicide. Its subsequent tertiary effects on the ecosystem are far removed from the people who applied it, who were just looking for an easy way to kill weeds.
- petermcneeley 6y ago
  That is a misquote. He implied human social engineering potentially as a side effect. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alex_Jones https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alex_Jones
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  The chemicals are not being intentionally put in the water at all. They are sprayed onto plants and then run off into the water. Atrazine is a herbicide.
  - ikeboy 6y ago
    Fair point, so the intentionality is one level back
ajDefender 6y ago
The Alex Jones quote is "I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay". Where'd you get your quote? or did you make it up?
- katmannthree 6y ago
  It's a direct quote from the comment I replied to. They've since edited their post.
  - eznzt 6y ago
    Yes sorry, I typed it out from memory. I didn't think the exact wording would be relevant, when that was not the point I was trying to make. I have corrected it to the actual quote.
- Judgmentality 6y ago
  This is my favorite hn handle to date.
- swebs 6y ago
  Here's the actual quote for those curious https://youtu.be/THFoayEgsV8?t=238 https://youtu.be/THFoayEgsV8?t=238

ikeboy 6y ago

Ah yes, technically the chemicals are being put in the water and are turning the frogs gay but you see, they only intended to put the chemicals in the water and didn't specifically intend to turn the frogs gay.

katmannthree 6y ago
Atrazine isn't intentionally put into water, it ending up in water reservoirs is a second order effect of its primary use as an herbicide. Its subsequent tertiary effects on the ecosystem are far removed from the people who applied it, who were just looking for an easy way to kill weeds.
petermcneeley 6y ago
That is a misquote. He implied human social engineering potentially as a side effect. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alex_Jones https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alex_Jones
MattGaiser 6y ago
The chemicals are not being intentionally put in the water at all. They are sprayed onto plants and then run off into the water. Atrazine is a herbicide.
- ikeboy 6y ago
  Fair point, so the intentionality is one level back

ajDefender 6y ago

The Alex Jones quote is "I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay". Where'd you get your quote? or did you make it up?

katmannthree 6y ago
It's a direct quote from the comment I replied to. They've since edited their post.
- eznzt 6y ago
  Yes sorry, I typed it out from memory. I didn't think the exact wording would be relevant, when that was not the point I was trying to make. I have corrected it to the actual quote.
Judgmentality 6y ago
This is my favorite hn handle to date.
swebs 6y ago
Here's the actual quote for those curious https://youtu.be/THFoayEgsV8?t=238 https://youtu.be/THFoayEgsV8?t=238