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This has been the case since Google Chrome. If you tolerated Chrome and it's "evergreen browser" behavior, you supported the process that eventually became soft

This has been the case since Google Chrome. If you tolerated Chrome and it's "evergreen browser" behavior, you supported the process that eventually became software developers' assumption that they should update themselves without permission on their schedules, and retire and remove features with regularity. In 2020, we no longer have a right to act surprised about this, because we should've done something to fight it a long time ago.

EvanAnderson 6y ago
I broke that functionality in Chrome so I could control when it updated. I didn't accept it. I won't accept it. I would encourage others not to accept it. I will abandon platforms that take away my control. That's not tenable for a lot of people. There's just a lot of "cool stuff" that I don't get to use if there isn't a Free solution. I deal with it. I hate it, but I deal with it.
- JadeNB 6y ago
  > I broke that functionality in Chrome so I could control when it updated. I didn't accept it. I won't accept it. I would encourage others not to accept it. > I will abandon platforms that take away my control. If you are still using Google Chrome, then it sounds like you will work to avoid the limitations of platforms that take away your control, which is very different from avoiding them.
  - EvanAnderson 6y ago
    I did not accept Chrome's "evergreen" functionality-- I didn't say that I don't use Chrome. I continue to use various hobbled Chrome versions when circumstances dictate. I use Firefox when I can. I wish I didn't need Chrome from time to time. If my underlying OS prevents me from hobbling Chrome I'll ultimately have to abandon Chrome (and probably the OS).
RandallBrown 6y ago
This is also how websites work.
- EvanAnderson 6y ago
  Which is a good reason to eschew software that's delivered via third-party servers versus running on your hardware.
- throwaway201103 6y ago
  Yes but I don't "own" a website. It's not reasonable for me to expect websites to keep working the way they always have. For SaaS of course, that's something to be aware of. Since I don't have the hardware and software under my control, I have no say in when the supplier stops providing it. Many people have learned this the hard way with Google services, just as an example (there are many others, not picking on Goggle in particular here).
- josefx 6y ago
  Weird, I have some saved copies of sites that ceased to exist years ago. The backups are still where I left them and I can open without issues. Apparently Microsoft failed to wipe my backups.
userbinator 6y ago
That's why I don't use Chrome, nor do I endorse others doing so (look at some of my other comments, if you want to know what I think of Google and its effective monopoly...)
tpxl 6y ago
> If you tolerated Chrome and it's "evergreen browser" behavior, you supported the process This meme needs to die. If all the choices are bad and you choose the least bad, you don't support it.

EvanAnderson 6y ago

I broke that functionality in Chrome so I could control when it updated. I didn't accept it. I won't accept it. I would encourage others not to accept it. I will abandon platforms that take away my control. That's not tenable for a lot of people. There's just a lot of "cool stuff" that I don't get to use if there isn't a Free solution. I deal with it. I hate it, but I deal with it.

JadeNB 6y ago
> I broke that functionality in Chrome so I could control when it updated. I didn't accept it. I won't accept it. I would encourage others not to accept it. > I will abandon platforms that take away my control. If you are still using Google Chrome, then it sounds like you will work to avoid the limitations of platforms that take away your control, which is very different from avoiding them.
- EvanAnderson 6y ago
  I did not accept Chrome's "evergreen" functionality-- I didn't say that I don't use Chrome. I continue to use various hobbled Chrome versions when circumstances dictate. I use Firefox when I can. I wish I didn't need Chrome from time to time. If my underlying OS prevents me from hobbling Chrome I'll ultimately have to abandon Chrome (and probably the OS).

RandallBrown 6y ago

This is also how websites work.

EvanAnderson 6y ago
Which is a good reason to eschew software that's delivered via third-party servers versus running on your hardware.
throwaway201103 6y ago
Yes but I don't "own" a website. It's not reasonable for me to expect websites to keep working the way they always have. For SaaS of course, that's something to be aware of. Since I don't have the hardware and software under my control, I have no say in when the supplier stops providing it. Many people have learned this the hard way with Google services, just as an example (there are many others, not picking on Goggle in particular here).
josefx 6y ago
Weird, I have some saved copies of sites that ceased to exist years ago. The backups are still where I left them and I can open without issues. Apparently Microsoft failed to wipe my backups.

userbinator 6y ago

That's why I don't use Chrome, nor do I endorse others doing so (look at some of my other comments, if you want to know what I think of Google and its effective monopoly...)

tpxl 6y ago

> If you tolerated Chrome and it's "evergreen browser" behavior, you supported the process This meme needs to die. If all the choices are bad and you choose the least bad, you don't support it.