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>When talking about policing, the only thing it provides victims is deterrence for criminals. Beyond that, there is nothing more the police can do for victims.
by macspoofing 6y ago
>When talking about policing, the only thing it provides victims is deterrence for criminals. Beyond that, there is nothing more the police can do for victims.
What about taking criminals out of the community and locking them away in prison? Would that not help? Because that's what this surveillance program would do. It allows the police to view footage after the crime occurred and track down the perp. It wouldn't help that victim, but it would prevent the next one.
>Lo and behold, police departments take a lot of tax money that could be used to help victims in ways beyond deterrence and so that is why we talk about defunding police.
False choice. You don't need to defund the police to fund whatever program you want. And you make it seem like there is some magic social program just waiting to be funded that would solve criminality but the evil police budget is what prevents it from being implemented. As if!
- birdyrooster 6y agoI never said it was the only way. You made it a false choice in your mind. Locking people up is a deterrence but it creates many criminals by putting them in depraved conditions for extended periods of time, then depriving them of employability and then as an insult, charging monthly fees for probation or other post-incarceration monitoring. The last thing I want to point out is how often the police victimize people and create new victims. It's incredibly common.
- macspoofing 6y ago>I never said it was the only way. You wrote: "police departments take a lot (in some cases a plurality) of total tax revenue that could be used to help victims in ways beyond deterrence. That is why we talk about defunding police." Where is the evidence that the police budget is what is preventing social programs to be funded? That is a fiction driven from the inane sloganeering around 'defund the police'. You can fund any program you democratically pass and that has nothing to do with police budget. That's the false choice you're putting out there .. that somehow you have to choose between 'funding the police' OR funding social programs. Here's the reality, we're spending billions on social programs. There are no silver-bullet social programs that we know will lower crime rate. >It's incredibly common. Uh huh. Care to quantify that? Because I think you're basing this on nothing.
- birdyrooster 6y agoOkay this is drivel. Waste your own time but I have other things to do.
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