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> There is no systematic fraud. > It appears as a mess because of the messaging of the President. We have GOP observers being thrown out of all of the critical

> There is no systematic fraud. > It appears as a mess because of the messaging of the President. We have GOP observers being thrown out of all of the critical election sites during the counting. We have tons of unsolicited ballots with no chain of custody. We have tons of confirmed cases of dead people voting, and women having votes case under maiden names. There is unmistakable, wide spread, voting irregularity. This isn't just the messaging of the president, this is a corrupt media that is on the side of establishment Democrats and Republicans that is clearly feeding a pure bullshit narrative to anyone willing to dull their senses, turn off all sources except the official industry standard media (Which got weapons of mass destruction wrong, which got Syria wrong, and which has a historic record of getting nearly everything wrong). If you stop listening to the various Ministries of Truth (both private and government) the entire idea there was "no election fraud" falls apart. The voting machines were/are a red haring. The real issue has always been the massive amounts of ballots with no chain of custody.

ric2b 6y ago
The courts have looked at these allegations and the actual evidence is slim to none, and far from being about a big enough number of votes to change the result of the election, it's not even enough to change the result in one state.
ThePowerOfFuet 6y ago
[citation needed]
jariel 6y ago
This is not true, and the and a good example of conspiratorial rationalization. Why doesn't Mike Pence, the VP back your claims? Are you saying you have more information that him? Why don't any GOP Senators? Judges? Consider if 'bad elections' claims had any merit whatsoever, the real GOP apparatus would be running full tilt at the problem. The Supreme Court would practically be inviting cases. Arguing that 'irregularities exist' is not an argument - because we know they exist, what matters is the magnitude and systematic efforts. The 'conspiratorial argument' falls apart immediately under any scrutiny - and there has been a lot of scrutiny. So we have a problem with giving out money, and appearance of problems in voting, maybe we can have 'voter ID' and get around some of the legitimacy/privacy issues. But the elections are effectively fair. Please try to understand that this is an issue of public communications and conspiratorial logic, and not reality. The 'ministries of truth' have considerably more integrity - especially as a whole - then

ric2b 6y ago

The courts have looked at these allegations and the actual evidence is slim to none, and far from being about a big enough number of votes to change the result of the election, it's not even enough to change the result in one state.

ThePowerOfFuet 6y ago

[citation needed]

jariel 6y ago

This is not true, and the and a good example of conspiratorial rationalization. Why doesn't Mike Pence, the VP back your claims? Are you saying you have more information that him? Why don't any GOP Senators? Judges? Consider if 'bad elections' claims had any merit whatsoever, the real GOP apparatus would be running full tilt at the problem. The Supreme Court would practically be inviting cases. Arguing that 'irregularities exist' is not an argument - because we know they exist, what matters is the magnitude and systematic efforts. The 'conspiratorial argument' falls apart immediately under any scrutiny - and there has been a lot of scrutiny. So we have a problem with giving out money, and appearance of problems in voting, maybe we can have 'voter ID' and get around some of the legitimacy/privacy issues. But the elections are effectively fair. Please try to understand that this is an issue of public communications and conspiratorial logic, and not reality. The 'ministries of truth' have considerably more integrity - especially as a whole - then