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Apparently it is. I’m a bit surprised at CO being incompetent, and I’d like to hear more. Generally my observation has been that states with one party rule hav

Apparently it is. I’m a bit surprised at CO being incompetent, and I’d like to hear more. Generally my observation has been that states with one party rule have been less effective than states where both parties have to compete for the approval of the electorate. Based on the last time I lived in CO, I would’ve put it in the latter category.

pueblito 6y ago
My mom got an unemployment card (US Bank handles it in CO) in the mail and she’s never worked; she’s a disabled senior. My dad called the bank and they didn’t care, and he called the state and they didn’t care either. This was around 3 weeks ago
- ashtonkem 6y ago
  I’ll be curious to see analysis on which states performed better here. But to be fair to CO, there is a good faith reason for governments to not care if they send cards to extra Americans. So long as the federal money printer is still running, spreading money around to Americans will keep the economy alive during the pandemic. Who cares if you give a bit of extra to people who don’t deserve it? Chances are they’ll spend it on local food and what not which’ll help keep other people off unemployment. This is especially true in cases where speed is of the essence, since you’d happily accept some level of errors to get the aid out immediately.
- y-c-o-m-b 6y ago
  They only care come tax time or years later when they try to accuse you of fraud. Sadly I've seen it happen and it's pure hell for the person, especially when they tried to make it right from the beginning.
droidno9 6y ago
This happened to me in CO. I received two debit cards in the mail earlier this Summer to a previous address, one for the one CO uses to distribute unemployment benefits, one for an Internet-only bank based out of CA. I think the fraudster got my info from CO's voter registration record, which is public by default. The address on there hasn't been updated. I had to fight the CA bank over the course of several weeks before they would close my account, and only after I had filed a complaint with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Pro tip: do this for any financial disputes; financial firms will be very responsive to your issues. I also called the bank CO uses to distribute unemployment benefits and they were much more amenable to my request to close the account. For CO's part, the only link they provided on the CO Dept of Labor's site to report fraud (a Google form) had language to basically say that I am reporting myself as the fraudster and I would be subject to perjury in filing the report. For obvious reasons, I didn't fill it out. (It took them months to change the form.) I then called their main phone number and the only way I could talk to anyone was to schedule a callback 2-3 months later. Ended up freezing all of my credit bureau accounts. BTW, I don't place this fault entirely on CO. It was a hectic and uncertain time and they were trying to distribute funds into people's hands as quickly as possible. I don't expect them to be able to change such a complicated process overnight, or even months. It's a clear example of fraudsters being well ahead of regulators.
- __soter__ 6y ago
  I know the form that you mention for reporting fraud in CO. Even better than the fact that it is a google form, is that is also asks for your Social Security Number.
InTheArena 6y ago
CO has been one party now for the last eight years or so - and it's beginning to show.

pueblito 6y ago

My mom got an unemployment card (US Bank handles it in CO) in the mail and she’s never worked; she’s a disabled senior. My dad called the bank and they didn’t care, and he called the state and they didn’t care either. This was around 3 weeks ago

ashtonkem 6y ago
I’ll be curious to see analysis on which states performed better here. But to be fair to CO, there is a good faith reason for governments to not care if they send cards to extra Americans. So long as the federal money printer is still running, spreading money around to Americans will keep the economy alive during the pandemic. Who cares if you give a bit of extra to people who don’t deserve it? Chances are they’ll spend it on local food and what not which’ll help keep other people off unemployment. This is especially true in cases where speed is of the essence, since you’d happily accept some level of errors to get the aid out immediately.
y-c-o-m-b 6y ago
They only care come tax time or years later when they try to accuse you of fraud. Sadly I've seen it happen and it's pure hell for the person, especially when they tried to make it right from the beginning.

droidno9 6y ago

This happened to me in CO. I received two debit cards in the mail earlier this Summer to a previous address, one for the one CO uses to distribute unemployment benefits, one for an Internet-only bank based out of CA. I think the fraudster got my info from CO's voter registration record, which is public by default. The address on there hasn't been updated. I had to fight the CA bank over the course of several weeks before they would close my account, and only after I had filed a complaint with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Pro tip: do this for any financial disputes; financial firms will be very responsive to your issues. I also called the bank CO uses to distribute unemployment benefits and they were much more amenable to my request to close the account. For CO's part, the only link they provided on the CO Dept of Labor's site to report fraud (a Google form) had language to basically say that I am reporting myself as the fraudster and I would be subject to perjury in filing the report. For obvious reasons, I didn't fill it out. (It took them months to change the form.) I then called their main phone number and the only way I could talk to anyone was to schedule a callback 2-3 months later. Ended up freezing all of my credit bureau accounts. BTW, I don't place this fault entirely on CO. It was a hectic and uncertain time and they were trying to distribute funds into people's hands as quickly as possible. I don't expect them to be able to change such a complicated process overnight, or even months. It's a clear example of fraudsters being well ahead of regulators.

__soter__ 6y ago
I know the form that you mention for reporting fraud in CO. Even better than the fact that it is a google form, is that is also asks for your Social Security Number.

InTheArena 6y ago

CO has been one party now for the last eight years or so - and it's beginning to show.