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No one is accurately talking about the risks. The vast majority of people who have died have been over 60. There have been young people who died, yes. But young
by djsumdog 6y ago
No one is accurately talking about the risks. The vast majority of people who have died have been over 60. There have been young people who died, yes. But young people die all the time of things that often kill very few: fungal infections, respiratory disease, bicycle wrecks. Now the narrative is "Long Covid" which comes from very limited case studies and papers that depend on web surveys and lots of other questionable research that falls flat once you start diving into the papers.
Meanwhile, all the things people are doing are about as effective as TSA Security Theater. The lockdowns simply do not work. We can see that in the numbers between California, South Dakota, Sweden and others. Every nation or municipality that takes a hard approach is no better off, and often much worse, than places that did substantially less. The masks are a placebo at this point and the numbers show they probably do next to nothing (except contribute to massive pollution, waste, shame and make us fearful of each other).
In 50 years, the only way I think historians will look back upon this ear is pure mass hysteria; global mass hysteria on a scale never seen before. This is not a time of honor and should never be returned to.
- LorenPechtel 6y agoWhen the compliance is good the lockdowns work well. Witness the results in the east Asian countries. They failed horribly in countries where people care less about others and compliance is too low.
- ryandrake 6y ago> The lockdowns simply do not work. We don't really know this because almost nowhere is actually locking anything down. We have these feeble and unenforced "stay at home" orders which are full of loopholes and largely ignored. If you go out for a drive in your town today (against stay-at-home guidance), you'll see all manner of stores open, people out and about horsing around, even restaurants. We're hardly taking any precautions at all. We don't know if lockdowns work because we haven't actually tried it. It's like the Simpsons quote, "We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!" [1] A few places on earth like NZ and Australia actually did stay-at-home with far fewer loopholes, mandatory quarantining, contact tracing, and they're doing much better. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOTyUfOHgas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOTyUfOHgas
- yibg 6y agoWe do know if we look globally. Many countries in Asia have real lockdowns, and they do have things under much better control.
- op03 6y agoPure mass hysteria on any matter these days is all thanks to the Like and Follower counter based reward system. Over energetic, mindlessly ambitious, attention craving lunatics on the Left and Right get propped up and dominate all discussion these days thanks to the counts. Everyone else has to enter into Count accumulating arms race to even be allowed into the room to speak. The counts enable the best panderers in society and validate everything they do and say.
- CraigJPerry 6y ago>> these days Was it ever any different? Pythagoras is on record saying something pretty similar to your words, ~2500 years ago.
- colechristensen 6y agoAbout the only thing that has really solidly changed over the last several thousand years is the near eradication of warlike hunter-gatherers and human sacrifice/cannibal societies. Every other stupid human behavior (and enlightened human behavior) is more or less the same now as it has been as long as there’s been civilization. Most of the obnoxious things people do are features of our biology, not some emergent effect of the blame target du jour.
- onethought 6y agoGo look at Melbourne Australia and come back and say lockdowns don't work. They went from 700/cases a day 30,000 infections. To 0/Day 0 Infections in 16 weeks. Everything you said is categorically wrong.
- josephcsible 6y agoAlmost(?) every country on Earth had a lockdown at some level. Australia is one of very few that got a good outcome.
- greedo 6y agoThis is nonsensical. Lockdowns aren't a binary system. The countries that did real lockdowns combined with testing, contact tracing and isolation are doing extremely well. Look at how China is doing today. Or Taiwan. Or New Zealand. Or Australia.
- josephcsible 6y agoIf lockdowns that aren't "real" (by the way, saying "real lockdowns" brings the no true Scotsman fallacy to mind) don't work to stop the virus, then why are >95% of the countries in the world doing them, since they still have all the negative side effects but without the benefit?
- corty 6y agoBecause politicians are idiots. They think doing some lockdown-light with 50% of the boxes ticked from scientists recommendations will get 50% of the promised effect. And if they pick the right 50% of boxes, it'll also not inconvenience anyone important...
- squeaky-clean 6y ago95% of the countries in the world have not done a lockdown. Stay at home orders are not lockdowns. In the USA we have never had an actual lockdown.
- thebigman433 6y agoCan you link some good studies that show masks do next to nothing?