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Agreed. This debate over the covid vaccines is getting weird. Especially when it comes to the HN demographic, I'm pretty sure 99%+ are perfectly fine with vacci

Agreed. This debate over the covid vaccines is getting weird. Especially when it comes to the HN demographic, I'm pretty sure 99%+ are perfectly fine with vaccines in general. As I am. Vaccines and a lot of modern pharmaceuticals are awesome and save many, many lives. However, I'm super against rushed, politicized pharmaceuticals. Especially when there are hundreds of millions of dollars in profit to be made. Big pharma isn't exactly known for doing the right thing when big money is on the line... ever. As you mentioned, vaccines are not safe because they are vaccines. They're safe because of the exhaustive testing trails. A majority of the forced vaccines have been tested for many decades, those are fine (speaking from a USA perspective). The problem we face now, the anti-vax idiots muddied the waters of actual problems of some vaccines. It's hard to determine what's true and what's just stupid. This is why it's important not to overblow anything. It makes it harder to weed out true, legit problems that can be legitimately fixed.

bryanlarsen 6y ago
All of the standard procedures for vaccine approval were followed. Timeline compression happened mostly by parallelizing procedures. (In the western world. Russia's Sputnik approval did skip steps. Which has probably saved a bunch of lives there, but it was riskier than ours).
MauranKilom 6y ago
It seems that you have concerns about the recently approved covid vaccines, at least from allusions such as "I'm super against rushed, politicized pharmaceuticals" and "A majority of the forced vaccines have been tested for many decades". To address those two points in particular: The trials for these FDA-approved vaccines were not "rushed". They included all the usual phases for their usual durations. That's why we only get the vaccines now (even though developing them took far less than a month). What made the trials faster is that they started preparing the next stage while the previous one was still ongoing - which is not normally done, so as to not waste money in case problems are found. As for the duration of testing: As mentioned, the set of stages before approval was not reduced. Vaccines are indeed monitored after being cleared for use, but having to wait decades would not make sense. I understand that this is different for other vaccines that are "forced", but you admit yourself that this is not true for all of them in the first place.

bryanlarsen 6y ago

All of the standard procedures for vaccine approval were followed. Timeline compression happened mostly by parallelizing procedures. (In the western world. Russia's Sputnik approval did skip steps. Which has probably saved a bunch of lives there, but it was riskier than ours).

MauranKilom 6y ago

It seems that you have concerns about the recently approved covid vaccines, at least from allusions such as "I'm super against rushed, politicized pharmaceuticals" and "A majority of the forced vaccines have been tested for many decades". To address those two points in particular: The trials for these FDA-approved vaccines were not "rushed". They included all the usual phases for their usual durations. That's why we only get the vaccines now (even though developing them took far less than a month). What made the trials faster is that they started preparing the next stage while the previous one was still ongoing - which is not normally done, so as to not waste money in case problems are found. As for the duration of testing: As mentioned, the set of stages before approval was not reduced. Vaccines are indeed monitored after being cleared for use, but having to wait decades would not make sense. I understand that this is different for other vaccines that are "forced", but you admit yourself that this is not true for all of them in the first place.