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> Java needs to die a fiery death. Care to elaborate why?
by mrw 6y ago
> Java needs to die a fiery death.
Care to elaborate why?
- rmdashrfstar 6y agoObject-oriented programming is a tired gimmick, and JVM tooling and its bloat is so two decades ago. We have better tools now, we should be using them!
- onetom 6y agoIf you are utilizing the JVM via Clojure, the situation is not that bad. A lot of Clojure's and Java stdlib's features are now available pre-compiled with GraalVM as a native executable via https://github.com/babashka/babashka https://github.com/babashka/babashka, which provides you with instant process start So the Java ecosystem is kinda living its renaissance now :) But overall I very much share your sentiment. Also worth noting that if you really want to slim a JVM runtime down, from a typical ~300MB size to ~50MB, it's not very complicated using `jlink`: https://medium.com/de-bijenkorf-techblog/creating-the-smallest-jvm-microservice-deployment-14a039a1dcae https://medium.com/de-bijenkorf-techblog/creating-the-smalle... It's still 50 times more than what I consider sane, but still... ;)