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How is it hard to argue with that approach? I get that a lot of people LOVE Nintendo and their products but this is insanely shady. What would be your reaction

by belval 6y ago

How is it hard to argue with that approach? I get that a lot of people LOVE Nintendo and their products but this is insanely shady. What would be your reaction if Apple hired private firms to stalk iFixit founders? Would it still be "hard to argue"?

javajosh 6y ago
Bad analogy. Information products require artificial scarcity. Literally everyone making a living wage on this site benefits from this fact. If you want to follow your line of reasoning to its logical conclusion, then fine. But what I see are people who benefit from this fact taking a holier-than-thou attitude toward Nintendo, and I object to the hypocrisy. iFixit is safe because it doesn't really affect Apple's sales. It may put a slightly downward pressure on Apple Store repair revenue. But iFixit solutions require technical aptitude, time and skill to apply that most people don't have, and wouldn't spend on fixing a laptop even if they had it! But what if iFixit sold a dohicky that defeats the copy protection on all software written for macOS? Do you think that's okay, and that their right to share that device is free speech?
- stale2002 6y ago
  This is about modding. People have a right to mod their own hardware that they legally purchased. That's all that matters.
  - javajosh 6y ago
    >That's all that matters. No, it isn't. But thank you for illustrating one consequence of "dogmatic belief".
    - stale2002 6y ago
      People have a right to mod their own hardware. Thats the law.
- belval 6y ago
  My argument was more in line with what the modders are doing. If Nintendo wants to DCMA takedown every website distributing their games that were cracked I am perfectly fine with that. The issue I have is that they target people who figure out how to run and copy cracked game from their device, and not those who are actively distributing them. While it makes perfect sense from their side, the images from the tweet feed do not present a compelling argument that the modders are breaking the law and as such they are intimidating law-abiding citizen which is horrifying.

by belval 6y ago

javajosh 6y ago

Bad analogy. Information products require artificial scarcity. Literally everyone making a living wage on this site benefits from this fact. If you want to follow your line of reasoning to its logical conclusion, then fine. But what I see are people who benefit from this fact taking a holier-than-thou attitude toward Nintendo, and I object to the hypocrisy. iFixit is safe because it doesn't really affect Apple's sales. It may put a slightly downward pressure on Apple Store repair revenue. But iFixit solutions require technical aptitude, time and skill to apply that most people don't have, and wouldn't spend on fixing a laptop even if they had it! But what if iFixit sold a dohicky that defeats the copy protection on all software written for macOS? Do you think that's okay, and that their right to share that device is free speech?

stale2002 6y ago
This is about modding. People have a right to mod their own hardware that they legally purchased. That's all that matters.
- javajosh 6y ago
  >That's all that matters. No, it isn't. But thank you for illustrating one consequence of "dogmatic belief".
  - stale2002 6y ago
    People have a right to mod their own hardware. Thats the law.
belval 6y ago
My argument was more in line with what the modders are doing. If Nintendo wants to DCMA takedown every website distributing their games that were cracked I am perfectly fine with that. The issue I have is that they target people who figure out how to run and copy cracked game from their device, and not those who are actively distributing them. While it makes perfect sense from their side, the images from the tweet feed do not present a compelling argument that the modders are breaking the law and as such they are intimidating law-abiding citizen which is horrifying.