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"I have several degrees and speak many languages and still can't find a high-paying job" - well, maybe you should turn to whoever told you several (very likely

"I have several degrees and speak many languages and still can't find a high-paying job" - well, maybe you should turn to whoever told you several (very likely liberal arts) degrees are in causal relation with a high-paying job?

tluyben2 15y ago
Exactly; for some reason people (and at least in western EU, more women than men) believe that they can just study something that has no economical value whatsoever but they 'like it so much' and then cry foul when there are no or badly paid jobs in those fields. It is bad in Spain for sure, but I'm not seeing the youth (or older actually) getting more creative unfortunately; the weird will to cling to what was (and doesn't work anymore) like 'the siesta' is painful to see.
- pmarin 15y ago
  The mistake is to think having any degree and nothing else will give you a high paid job. In Spain there is too much "titulitis"
  - tluyben2 15y ago
    Or a job at all. Not so hard to teach people at university some quite simple numbers and statistics right? 'Ok, so you are going to specialize in Basque history; you do know that there are 4 jobs in need of that subject in whole of Spain right? And you'll earn nothing, your whole life?'.
alvatar 15y ago
Well, your assumption is wrong. There is actually such a high degree of unemployment that affects professionals like: biologists, doctors, architects and even engineers. I do have friends in that situation. I'm living in Madrid, just 10 minutes away from where everything is happening.
- tluyben2 15y ago
  But if they are good at what they do, they really cannot find the creativity to fix their situation? Like move to another city where there is work? Start your own company (there is subsidizing for that, at least in Andalusia)? Do your own marketing better? Why are people sitting in Madrid '10 minutes away from where everything is happening' and then just wait until 'something' happens??
- uriel 15y ago
  > architects and even engineers How is this surprising after one of the greatest housing bubbles in history burst?
- unsigner 15y ago
  I live in Bulgaria, and we have many people in the construction business - starting from architects all the way to hard-hat workers - out of job - but I attribute it to the construction boom that pulled way too many people towards that area; we don't actually need all that concrete crap built. But doctors? This is surprising. The "common wisdom" around here is that the EU needs all the doctors it can get, as virtually all the medical graduates emigrate quickly.

tluyben2 15y ago

Exactly; for some reason people (and at least in western EU, more women than men) believe that they can just study something that has no economical value whatsoever but they 'like it so much' and then cry foul when there are no or badly paid jobs in those fields. It is bad in Spain for sure, but I'm not seeing the youth (or older actually) getting more creative unfortunately; the weird will to cling to what was (and doesn't work anymore) like 'the siesta' is painful to see.

pmarin 15y ago
The mistake is to think having any degree and nothing else will give you a high paid job. In Spain there is too much "titulitis"
- tluyben2 15y ago
  Or a job at all. Not so hard to teach people at university some quite simple numbers and statistics right? 'Ok, so you are going to specialize in Basque history; you do know that there are 4 jobs in need of that subject in whole of Spain right? And you'll earn nothing, your whole life?'.

alvatar 15y ago

Well, your assumption is wrong. There is actually such a high degree of unemployment that affects professionals like: biologists, doctors, architects and even engineers. I do have friends in that situation. I'm living in Madrid, just 10 minutes away from where everything is happening.

tluyben2 15y ago
But if they are good at what they do, they really cannot find the creativity to fix their situation? Like move to another city where there is work? Start your own company (there is subsidizing for that, at least in Andalusia)? Do your own marketing better? Why are people sitting in Madrid '10 minutes away from where everything is happening' and then just wait until 'something' happens??
uriel 15y ago
> architects and even engineers How is this surprising after one of the greatest housing bubbles in history burst?
unsigner 15y ago
I live in Bulgaria, and we have many people in the construction business - starting from architects all the way to hard-hat workers - out of job - but I attribute it to the construction boom that pulled way too many people towards that area; we don't actually need all that concrete crap built. But doctors? This is surprising. The "common wisdom" around here is that the EU needs all the doctors it can get, as virtually all the medical graduates emigrate quickly.