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I am someone who spends enormous amount of time mindlessly skimming through internet glued to my phone. It makes me worry that due to this habit it will be diff

I am someone who spends enormous amount of time mindlessly skimming through internet glued to my phone. It makes me worry that due to this habit it will be difficult for me to do any novel work due to lack of deep thinking.

7373737373 6y ago
There's always the exploration-exploitation tradeoff...
- Method-X 6y ago
  Please elaborate... I’m curious.
  - 7373737373 6y ago
    You often have a choice of either exploring the unknown, with possible but uncertain rewards, or just work with what you already have, and try to exploit it as best as possible. This is a common theme in machine learning and agent simulations, but can be found everywhere. > Exploration involves activities such as search, variation, risk taking, experimentation, discovery, and innovation. Exploitation involves activities such as refinement, efficiency, selection, implementation, and execution (from here: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0256090915599709 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/02560909155997...)
    - emj 6y ago
      Well you need to do these stuff: > experimentation, discovery, and innovation. Is the important part, e.g. because of mindlessly surfing around and trying out new cool algorithms/demos made with obsucre tools, I became an expert at testing and integrating things which were not ment to be integrated with each other. That is a usefull skill.. But I can just as often fall into the trap of reiterating cool stories from the internet to other people. That is usually not helpfull. I.e. you need to do your own discoveries as well by trying them, not just share.
- simonh 6y ago
  Theres analogous failure mode I've come across in gaming (board games, tabletop RPGs, etc) called analysis paralysis. Some people spend so long thinking about the best possible actions they could take that they sometimes find it very difficult to do anything useful.
pm90 6y ago
Deep thinking isn’t something “inherently good”. If you’re not inclined to it, I think that’s fine. Most humans may not be. What I take away from reading profiles of the very intelligent is that for many of them the thing they’re known for also happens to be the thing they like doing and are inclined to it despite themselves. Some enjoy the pleasure that comes from deep thinking. Others enjoy understanding what others have thought up. It’s fine. There’s no competition.
- cinericius 6y ago
  It's hard to ignore that there are very few prizes/awards/incentives for those who enjoy understanding what others have thought up in comparison (though I think it is it's own reward as you say, and that those who do deep thinking enjoy understanding the products of others' deep thinking and are better deep thinkers for it.)
  - sephamorr 6y ago
    If I understand your point correctly, I think what you're describing is "engineering". This deep thinking seems like 'science' to me, while putting together those pieces of theory into new and exciting practice (products) does seem like an award - I think many people on this site are financially well compensated for such engineering, prizes and awards notwithstanding.
- unishark 6y ago
  "Good" is a subjective quality but I'd say there is inherent value in deep thinking and one would generally be better off doing more of it if they aren't doing much.
mpfundstein 6y ago
delete all browsers from your phone it works
- sudhirkhanger 6y ago
  I have removed most of the apps on my phone but this is an interesting and maybe a revolutionary idea.

7373737373 6y ago

There's always the exploration-exploitation tradeoff...

Method-X 6y ago
Please elaborate... I’m curious.
- 7373737373 6y ago
  You often have a choice of either exploring the unknown, with possible but uncertain rewards, or just work with what you already have, and try to exploit it as best as possible. This is a common theme in machine learning and agent simulations, but can be found everywhere. > Exploration involves activities such as search, variation, risk taking, experimentation, discovery, and innovation. Exploitation involves activities such as refinement, efficiency, selection, implementation, and execution (from here: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0256090915599709 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/02560909155997...)
  - emj 6y ago
    Well you need to do these stuff: > experimentation, discovery, and innovation. Is the important part, e.g. because of mindlessly surfing around and trying out new cool algorithms/demos made with obsucre tools, I became an expert at testing and integrating things which were not ment to be integrated with each other. That is a usefull skill.. But I can just as often fall into the trap of reiterating cool stories from the internet to other people. That is usually not helpfull. I.e. you need to do your own discoveries as well by trying them, not just share.
simonh 6y ago
Theres analogous failure mode I've come across in gaming (board games, tabletop RPGs, etc) called analysis paralysis. Some people spend so long thinking about the best possible actions they could take that they sometimes find it very difficult to do anything useful.

pm90 6y ago

Deep thinking isn’t something “inherently good”. If you’re not inclined to it, I think that’s fine. Most humans may not be. What I take away from reading profiles of the very intelligent is that for many of them the thing they’re known for also happens to be the thing they like doing and are inclined to it despite themselves. Some enjoy the pleasure that comes from deep thinking. Others enjoy understanding what others have thought up. It’s fine. There’s no competition.

cinericius 6y ago
It's hard to ignore that there are very few prizes/awards/incentives for those who enjoy understanding what others have thought up in comparison (though I think it is it's own reward as you say, and that those who do deep thinking enjoy understanding the products of others' deep thinking and are better deep thinkers for it.)
- sephamorr 6y ago
  If I understand your point correctly, I think what you're describing is "engineering". This deep thinking seems like 'science' to me, while putting together those pieces of theory into new and exciting practice (products) does seem like an award - I think many people on this site are financially well compensated for such engineering, prizes and awards notwithstanding.
unishark 6y ago
"Good" is a subjective quality but I'd say there is inherent value in deep thinking and one would generally be better off doing more of it if they aren't doing much.

mpfundstein 6y ago

delete all browsers from your phone it works

sudhirkhanger 6y ago
I have removed most of the apps on my phone but this is an interesting and maybe a revolutionary idea.