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>It would be one thing to do this in the natsec context, where such an approach is understandable, but it is another for a private company to surveil and intimi

>It would be one thing to do this in the natsec context, where such an approach is understandable, but it is another for a private company to surveil and intimidate someone who has legally purchased hardware. Video games are amazing entertainment and (sometimes) art, but their importance in the big picture is out of sync with the disproportionate nature of these measures. I agree with you. However, Nintendo has/makes more money than many countries. I'm sure it's entirely justified in their eyes. The better topic would be a discussion on how to change our various cultures to act in the greater good first and profits second. Even as I write that, I laugh at the impossibility of it.

criley2 6y ago
>The better topic would be a discussion on how to change our various cultures to act in the greater good first and profits second. Even as I write that, I laugh at the impossibility of it. We don't do politics here, but this sounds very much like Capitalism vs Communism, just in the sense of "Greed Motivation" vs "Community Motivation" Of course, greed motivation always ends up consuming any ideology, even those not specifically built on top of it, doesn't it?
- barbecue_sauce 6y ago
  We don't do politics here?
  - mondoshawan 6y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html In general, yes. Politics aren't really on the discussion list here.
    - ashtonkem 6y ago
      We don't do partisanship here, but we do do policy. And policy maps back to politics with trivial ease, although not always consistently.
  - NikolaNovak 6y ago
    No clue why the sibling comment was not just down voted but flagged. But to kind of respond to it, my 0.0006 cents :) ed25519FUUU: "Generally curious, do we just basically ignore what happened in the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Vietnam, and China when we discuss the “community motivations” of communism and how that plays out?" - there's the political and economic philosophy, and then there are real world implementations, done with various degrees of honesty and varied goals - some will claim Russia etc are state capitalism or some other format rather than "pure communism" - some will point out that purest examples of practical communism, the Israeli Kibutz, were wildly successful (none of this is to indicate I have remotest interest in living in communism - in fact we ran across countries and continents to not be in one... But the theory is still interesting and in some ways relevant)
  - dang 6y ago
    It depends on the story and thread. Generic "capitalism vs. communism" stuff is out because it's repetitive and tedious (and usually nasty) [1]. Same with political/ideological battle in general. Political flamewar is out because any flamewar is out [2]. Sensational/news-of-the-day/horse-race political stories are out because they're not intellectually interesting [2]. But curious, thoughtful conversation on topics with political overlap is ok on HN [3], and always has been [4]. [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=generic%20ideolog%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869
- ed25519FUUU 6y ago
  > We don't do politics here, but this sounds very much like Capitalism vs Communism, just in the sense of "Greed Motivation" vs "Community Motivation" Generally curious, do we just basically ignore what happened in the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Vietnam, and China when we discuss the “community motivations” of communism and how that plays out?

criley2 6y ago

>The better topic would be a discussion on how to change our various cultures to act in the greater good first and profits second. Even as I write that, I laugh at the impossibility of it. We don't do politics here, but this sounds very much like Capitalism vs Communism, just in the sense of "Greed Motivation" vs "Community Motivation" Of course, greed motivation always ends up consuming any ideology, even those not specifically built on top of it, doesn't it?

barbecue_sauce 6y ago
We don't do politics here?
- mondoshawan 6y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html In general, yes. Politics aren't really on the discussion list here.
  - ashtonkem 6y ago
    We don't do partisanship here, but we do do policy. And policy maps back to politics with trivial ease, although not always consistently.
- NikolaNovak 6y ago
  No clue why the sibling comment was not just down voted but flagged. But to kind of respond to it, my 0.0006 cents :) ed25519FUUU: "Generally curious, do we just basically ignore what happened in the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Vietnam, and China when we discuss the “community motivations” of communism and how that plays out?" - there's the political and economic philosophy, and then there are real world implementations, done with various degrees of honesty and varied goals - some will claim Russia etc are state capitalism or some other format rather than "pure communism" - some will point out that purest examples of practical communism, the Israeli Kibutz, were wildly successful (none of this is to indicate I have remotest interest in living in communism - in fact we ran across countries and continents to not be in one... But the theory is still interesting and in some ways relevant)
- dang 6y ago
  It depends on the story and thread. Generic "capitalism vs. communism" stuff is out because it's repetitive and tedious (and usually nasty) [1]. Same with political/ideological battle in general. Political flamewar is out because any flamewar is out [2]. Sensational/news-of-the-day/horse-race political stories are out because they're not intellectually interesting [2]. But curious, thoughtful conversation on topics with political overlap is ok on HN [3], and always has been [4]. [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=generic%20ideolog%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869
ed25519FUUU 6y ago
> We don't do politics here, but this sounds very much like Capitalism vs Communism, just in the sense of "Greed Motivation" vs "Community Motivation" Generally curious, do we just basically ignore what happened in the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Vietnam, and China when we discuss the “community motivations” of communism and how that plays out?