5 ms·

Brexit might have some benefits after all. Let the competition begin!

by interdrift 6y ago

quonn 6y ago
Any EU member can always approve any vaccine independently.
- oblio 6y ago
  It's almost like EU countries tend to trust the joint efforts and don't generally go at it alone. Well, with the obvious exception that happened this year (Brexit).
drawfloat 6y ago
The vaccine was developed prior to the end of the transition agreement, and the UK already had protocols for approving vaccines before rest of the EU (see Pfizer). What's this got to do with Brexit?
- karimtr 6y ago
  The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has unfortunately been heavily politicized in the UK. The reporting around it has always sounded a bit nationalistic. For the past few months, the government has been using every opportunity to justify Brexit. The vaccine approval process being one of those.
  - DrBazza 6y ago
    I disagree. I don't think it's been "heavily" politicized, or even moderately, though I'm happy for you to point me to a clip or link of the Government taking claim for it? > The reporting around it has always sounded a bit nationalistic. The press have certainly reported that it's British developed, and why not? I'd say they equally reported that the Moderna vaccine was developed by Turkish Germans/German Turks.
    - DanBC 6y ago
      https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-brexit-did-not-speed-up-uk-vaccine-authorisation https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-brexit-did... Matt Hancock, secretary of state for department of health and social care: "It is absolutely clear that because we’ve left the EU I was able to change the law so that the UK alone could make this authorisation decision. So because we’ve left the EU, we’ve been able to move faster." See also Jacob monumental fucking bellend Rees-Mogg and Nadine Dorries who made similar claims.
      - TMWNN 6y ago
        That you don't like someone's politics does not make what they say inherently false. If Rees-Mogg, Dorries, and Hancock are wrong, then demonstrate it.
        jackweirdy 6y ago
        > And its chief executive, Dr June Raine, said on Wednesday that "we have been able to authorise the supply of this vaccine using provisions under European law, which exist until 1 January". The full summary is below. But the short answer is the regulators who did the work are saying it makes no difference https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730
    - tao_oat 6y ago
      Just jumping in here to share one example: one unit inside No.10 tried to get the union jack printed on this vaccine (but appears to have been unsuccessful): https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/oxford-university-astrazeneca-vaccine-uk-flag-union-jack_uk_5fbfdd14c5b68ca87f827a0e https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/oxford-university-ast...
      - DrBazza 6y ago
        I was not aware of this. I've tended to avoid the press other than the BBC due to the overwhelming and relentless negativity of the last 9 months.

Brexit might have some benefits after all. Let the competition begin!

quonn 6y ago

Any EU member can always approve any vaccine independently.

oblio 6y ago
It's almost like EU countries tend to trust the joint efforts and don't generally go at it alone. Well, with the obvious exception that happened this year (Brexit).

drawfloat 6y ago

The vaccine was developed prior to the end of the transition agreement, and the UK already had protocols for approving vaccines before rest of the EU (see Pfizer). What's this got to do with Brexit?

karimtr 6y ago
The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has unfortunately been heavily politicized in the UK. The reporting around it has always sounded a bit nationalistic. For the past few months, the government has been using every opportunity to justify Brexit. The vaccine approval process being one of those.
- DrBazza 6y ago
  I disagree. I don't think it's been "heavily" politicized, or even moderately, though I'm happy for you to point me to a clip or link of the Government taking claim for it? > The reporting around it has always sounded a bit nationalistic. The press have certainly reported that it's British developed, and why not? I'd say they equally reported that the Moderna vaccine was developed by Turkish Germans/German Turks.
  - DanBC 6y ago
    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-brexit-did-not-speed-up-uk-vaccine-authorisation https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-brexit-did... Matt Hancock, secretary of state for department of health and social care: "It is absolutely clear that because we’ve left the EU I was able to change the law so that the UK alone could make this authorisation decision. So because we’ve left the EU, we’ve been able to move faster." See also Jacob monumental fucking bellend Rees-Mogg and Nadine Dorries who made similar claims.
    - TMWNN 6y ago
      That you don't like someone's politics does not make what they say inherently false. If Rees-Mogg, Dorries, and Hancock are wrong, then demonstrate it.
      - jackweirdy 6y ago
        > And its chief executive, Dr June Raine, said on Wednesday that "we have been able to authorise the supply of this vaccine using provisions under European law, which exist until 1 January". The full summary is below. But the short answer is the regulators who did the work are saying it makes no difference https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730
  - tao_oat 6y ago
    Just jumping in here to share one example: one unit inside No.10 tried to get the union jack printed on this vaccine (but appears to have been unsuccessful): https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/oxford-university-astrazeneca-vaccine-uk-flag-union-jack_uk_5fbfdd14c5b68ca87f827a0e https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/oxford-university-ast...
    - DrBazza 6y ago
      I was not aware of this. I've tended to avoid the press other than the BBC due to the overwhelming and relentless negativity of the last 9 months.