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Pull the other one - if his name sounded foreign, or if he had been black, they would have been there with a swat team, and he would have been shot on sight. A
by madaxe_again 6y ago
Pull the other one - if his name sounded foreign, or if he had been black, they would have been there with a swat team, and he would have been shot on sight.
As to invade and search without consent... you just get a midnight court to rubberstamp your no-knock raid. There’s your consent.
Maybe you didn’t notice the extensive protests about bias in policing in the US this year. The police do a hell of a lot more over a hell of a lot less - it just depends on your socioeconomic background and skin colour.
- tsimionescu 6y agoSure, but that's not normality, no one wants that to be standard police response. The whole point of the recent protests is to get real protections for all people, regardless of race or nationaloty, not to strip white Americans of theirs.
- madaxe_again 6y agoI don’t know, I think if white Americans were subjected to the same experiences as non-white Americans, then perhaps police reform would become an important topic for white Americans.
- tsimionescu 6y agoMaking a crisis bigger so more people will react to it doesn't sound like a good strategy for fixing the crisis.
- colejohnson66 6y agoUnfortunately, that seems to be the only way to get people to care. No one cares about the treatment of prisoners and the abuse of law enforcement until it affects them. It’s sad, really. Videos don’t convince people because “everyone has an agenda” and they’re “isolated incidents”.[a] [a]: Not actual quotes; they’re paraphrased from what I’ve heard previously
- Rebelgecko 6y agoHow often do calls about potential bombers result in police shootings? If your comment is in earnest, I think you'd be relieved to know that it's very rare, regardless of the ethnicity of the people who are being searched/detained/arrested (feel free to ignore my comment if you were just going for hyperbolic cynicism) I remember the HN post about Marak Squirs getting arrested for homemade explosives going off in his apartment and AFAIK the police didn't killed him. (edited to make the tone a bit less pointed)
- madaxe_again 6y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Mohamed_clock_incident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Mohamed_clock_incident I was making a list, but if you really need a list, then you’ve not been following the news. Ever hear of a woman called Breonna?
- Rebelgecko 6y ago>I was making a list, but if you really need a list, then you’ve not been following the news Wouldn't Ahmed Mohamed be a counterexample, not an example? He has a "foreign sounding" name and there were no deaths or nighttime SWAT raids as a result of the bogus bomb threat his teacher called in. >Ever hear of a woman called Breonna? If you're referring to Breonna Taylor, I don't think she was accused of building bombs and no-knock warrants are an entirely different issue IMO from warrantless searches resulting from bomb threats. From perusing the wikipedia list of unsuccessful terrorist attacks [1], I didn't notice a single alleged bombmaker who was killed by police. Including many who were foreign-born and who were of African-American or Middle Eastern descent. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist_plots_in_the_United_States_post-9/11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist...
- madaxe_again 6y agoYou’re right, there’s definitely no systemic racism in policing in the US, you’ve proved it - congratulations.