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There is a point where many don't get the memo you did however, and it becomes a thing anyway, no matter how ironic it was supposed to be. Ironic racism is stil
by th0ma5 6y ago
There is a point where many don't get the memo you did however, and it becomes a thing anyway, no matter how ironic it was supposed to be. Ironic racism is still racism.
- at_a_remove 6y agoI dunno, how ominously can one drink a glass of milk? How does it inconvenience people selectively based on race? The answer is it cannot, not without people doing absolute backflips of contorted reasoning, and that's what it highlights. Drinking milk isn't racism, the worst it can do is emphasize the absolute paranoia of people who cannot stop looking for the devil under every bed.
- th0ma5 6y agoI know that, and you know that, but other people don't know that. Look at cow tipping, snipe hunting, tide pods... "Everyone" knows it is all BS, and yet...
- at_a_remove 6y agoSo drinking that glass of milk selectively inconveniences people on the basis of race how?
- th0ma5 6y agoHey man I don't make this shit up, but people buy into it... Even when they too think it is BS even if just to fit in.
- at_a_remove 6y agoYou are not answering my question. How can drinking a glass of milk selectively inconvenience someone on the basis of race? How? Please describe the mechanism. Hint: It can't. Which means that it isn't racist. Which means that it isn't ironically racist, either. This in turn means that it's just tweaking the noses of the paranoid, not that it is racist.
- th0ma5 6y agoYour rhetoric is part of the problem. You want me to absolve right wing extremists for some reason. It is absurd, and it's absurdity is part of its mechanism of spread. Your inquiring rhetoric is trying to minimize it as absurdity when the ineffectiveness isn't even the point.
- at_a_remove 6y agoNo, the irrationality is part of the problem. I can ask you again and again to describe how this thing might be "racist" and you cannot do so. It is only racist by fiat, as if someone could declare a particular letter of the alphabet racist. That's the absurd bit. I can ask and ask and ask, and you won't answer the question because you cannot. That's the absurdity.
- th0ma5 6y agoI'm not sure why you are supporting a racist symbol, or trying to convince me or anyone reading it isn't racist. Either you like to fight very low stakes or you've given into the rhetoric that causes these things to spread (eg tide pods look delicious so I can see why people would want to do it, but it is obviously stupid). I have conceded that I cannot explain it as racist on the surface, but you cannot accept that it is racist in its mechanism of spread as an idea that it could be racist... Which is racist enough for racists.
- at_a_remove 6y agoI am unsure why you are supporting the irrationality of concepts like "milk is racist," or trying to convince me or anyone else reading that it is racist and that this stance is not utterly irrational, as you have no way of supporting it. Either you enjoy struggling over mintuae or you have given your mind over to people who will program you with headlines ("... and why that's a problem."). Remember, you replied to me. You have conceded that you do not have a reasonable stance, but you will stubbornly hold onto it based on some nebulous tautology that it is that way because someone said it is that way ... which is irrational enough for me to reject it. Only witches support the idea that there are no witches, and we know what to do with witches, don't we? That's the historical precedent for the thought process you're trying to foist upon me. I recollect only a paraphrasing of a routine on how bad propaganda is laughably bad on its surface. It's purpose is not to convince, but to make you admit to yourself you have no reason to believe it, but also realize that you will repeat the propaganda anyway ... or else. Having asserted to me that milk is racist, you will not be drinking it in the future, or purchasing it, I suppose.