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But only tools that are replaceable, used mostly in development mode. I'm not sure what "tools that are replaceable" means (because to me everything is replace

But only tools that are replaceable, used mostly in development mode. I'm not sure what "tools that are replaceable" means (because to me everything is replaceable), but the comment about mostly in dev mode is just not correct. There are tons of uses of Oracle. In that 25%, it's probably 75%. Tons of MS shops use Flash. Tons of MS shops use EC2. Tons of MS shops use SQLLite. Tons of shops use nHibernate. Tons of MS shops use components from Telerik, Infragistics, Actipro, Component Source, ESRI. Those are all things deployed with the application and not made by MS. Again, the characterization you made is just false.

bad_user 16y ago
to me everything is replaceable Well yes, you can always rebuild from scratch. There are tons of uses of Oracle Microsoft has been collaborating with Oracle for the integration provided. It's the only third-party database with that privilege. Tons of MS shops use Flash What's more interesting to me is that tons of MS shops are using Silverlight, even though it isn't the best solution by any stretch of imagination, having the extra handicap that its reach is at most half than the reach of Flash, even inside an intranet environment. Those are all things deployed with the application and not made by MS When you have to choose between software STACKS, you don't decide on the availability of a Hibernate clone, or on the availability of payed ASP.NET components that you wouldn't need if you weren't using ASP.NET in the first place. You decide based on the 5 biggies - OS, database server, web server, application server, caching layer. And nothing replaces SQL Server, Windows Server and IIS. And if .NET shops have been using Memcached, that's because no alternative was available from MS.
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- kenjackson 16y ago
  Microsoft has been collaborating with Oracle for the integration provided. It's the only third-party database with that privilege. Doesn't explain the use of MySql, DB2, Teradata, etc... I don't know who MS works with, but I do know that there are shops that use a wide range of database solutions. What's more interesting to me is that tons of MS shops are using Silverlight, even though it isn't the best solution by any stretch of imagination, having the extra handicap that its reach is at most half than the reach of Flash, even inside an intranet environment. Kind of like HTML5 features right? :-) You decide based on the 5 biggies - OS, database server, web server, application server, caching layer. And nothing replaces SQL Server, Windows Server and IIS. And if .NET shops have been using Memcached, that's because no alternative was available from MS. You make it sound like there are a million OSes the FOSS community chooses from. It's Linux. Done. Some random bloke uses BSD, but really it's Linux. And half the time ppl in FOSS talk about databases its key/value dbs, and there are tons on Windows too. Plus they're often written from scratch. Apache works if you use ASP.NET MVC. Memcached, as you note, also works. My point, virtually everything you mentioned can swapped out. And even the OS can be, with Mono. With that said the MS implementations tend to work well together. But I conceeded that in the very first line of my original post.

bad_user 16y ago

to me everything is replaceable Well yes, you can always rebuild from scratch. There are tons of uses of Oracle Microsoft has been collaborating with Oracle for the integration provided. It's the only third-party database with that privilege. Tons of MS shops use Flash What's more interesting to me is that tons of MS shops are using Silverlight, even though it isn't the best solution by any stretch of imagination, having the extra handicap that its reach is at most half than the reach of Flash, even inside an intranet environment. Those are all things deployed with the application and not made by MS When you have to choose between software STACKS, you don't decide on the availability of a Hibernate clone, or on the availability of payed ASP.NET components that you wouldn't need if you weren't using ASP.NET in the first place. You decide based on the 5 biggies - OS, database server, web server, application server, caching layer. And nothing replaces SQL Server, Windows Server and IIS. And if .NET shops have been using Memcached, that's because no alternative was available from MS.

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kenjackson 16y ago
Microsoft has been collaborating with Oracle for the integration provided. It's the only third-party database with that privilege. Doesn't explain the use of MySql, DB2, Teradata, etc... I don't know who MS works with, but I do know that there are shops that use a wide range of database solutions. What's more interesting to me is that tons of MS shops are using Silverlight, even though it isn't the best solution by any stretch of imagination, having the extra handicap that its reach is at most half than the reach of Flash, even inside an intranet environment. Kind of like HTML5 features right? :-) You decide based on the 5 biggies - OS, database server, web server, application server, caching layer. And nothing replaces SQL Server, Windows Server and IIS. And if .NET shops have been using Memcached, that's because no alternative was available from MS. You make it sound like there are a million OSes the FOSS community chooses from. It's Linux. Done. Some random bloke uses BSD, but really it's Linux. And half the time ppl in FOSS talk about databases its key/value dbs, and there are tons on Windows too. Plus they're often written from scratch. Apache works if you use ASP.NET MVC. Memcached, as you note, also works. My point, virtually everything you mentioned can swapped out. And even the OS can be, with Mono. With that said the MS implementations tend to work well together. But I conceeded that in the very first line of my original post.