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> The new vaccines were 90 percent and 94.5 percent effective, said Mr. Paul, Republican of Kentucky and a trained ophthalmologist. And “naturally acquired” Cov
by StavrosK 6y ago
> The new vaccines were 90 percent and 94.5 percent effective, said Mr. Paul, Republican of Kentucky and a trained ophthalmologist. And “naturally acquired” Covid-19 was 99.9982 percent effective, he claimed.
This is a good point, since you can't get COVID a second time if you're dead.
- arcticbull 6y agoYeah, or in the 99% of people who recover either. A vaccine is obviously preferable though.
- StavrosK 6y agoThe issue is that you don't know whether you're going to be in the "recovered" group before you get COVID (which is why the vaccine is preferable, you get good immunity without the pesky dying).
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- nytgop77 6y agoIn theory: vaccine could work only on people who would anyway not die. Do they test for vaccine innefectiveness corelation with virus lethality and/or complications?
- rswail 6y agoWhy would the vaccine only work on people that wouldn't die? The vaccine trains the body to kill the virus (SARS-Cov-2) when it enters, not deal with the symptoms of the virus using the body to replicate (COVID-19). Vaccines stop infection. Therapeutics stop disease. The map is not the territory.
- nytgop77 6y agomy (laymans) model/hipothesis how this could work. There are two groups of people. Latent antibody bombs (on slitghest signal antibodies go from zero to hero) and antibody deserts (where even at late stages of desease only low antibody counts are produced). Those which easily make antibodies, kill off the virus quick enough to get significantly less side effects compared to the other group. IF such model would hold, then it would be natural that antibody deserts dont produce much antibodies when reacting to vaccine, so there would be corellation between succeptible to covid mortality and vaccine innefectiveness.
- davrosthedalek 6y agoIn theory, yes. The trials clearly showed a reduction of bad cases too, so very unlikely. AFAIK, nobody died during the tests, so technically not tested.
- nytgop77 6y agoreduction of bad cases is good enough indicator for me.
- azernik 6y agoFor a better comparison - we would never accept a vaccine that had a 1-3% fatality rate.
- StavrosK 6y agoYep, exactly. I wonder who's down voting this and why.